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Post by embee Sun 10 May 2020, 03:42

Crappelli's AT Dubber XII

Morris
Simpson
Bradman
Mark Waugh
McCabe
Miller (C)
Haddin (WK)
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reiily
McGrath
Benaud

Linky ...with reasons and his Barbados team
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Post by horace Sun 10 May 2020, 06:35

I looked at that team and rubbed my eyes
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Post by JGK Sun 10 May 2020, 07:52

embee wrote:Crappelli's AT Dubber XII

Morris
Simpson
Bradman
Mark Waugh
McCabe
Miller (C)
Haddin (WK)
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reiily
McGrath
Benaud

Linky ...with reasons and his Barbados team


He's just embarrassing himself now.

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Post by lardbucket Sun 10 May 2020, 08:08

Haddin?

Haddin?

and Mark W over Steve?

I didn't think even Chappell was that bitter.

I can only assume that his residual brain cells fried when he was compelled to choose Bradman.

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Post by horace Sun 10 May 2020, 08:13

Plus I'd have Tubby ahead of Simpson (sorry qmy).
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Post by JGK Sun 10 May 2020, 08:27

And WTF do you need 4 quicks plus O'Reilly?

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Post by Bradman Sun 10 May 2020, 09:21

horace wrote:Plus I'd have Tubby ahead of Simpson (sorry qmy).

Any SOO NSW team that doesn't include Border lacks all credibility. As for TFF, it's your funeral. Feel free to include Waugh S. Bradman may be one of the few people he's never run out so it would be churlish not to give him a chance.
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Post by horace Sun 10 May 2020, 09:42

Bradman wrote:
horace wrote:Plus I'd have Tubby ahead of Simpson (sorry qmy).

Any SOO NSW team that doesn't include Border lacks all credibility.  As for TFF, it's your funeral.  Feel free to include Waugh S.  Bradman may be one of the few people he's never run out so it would be churlish not to give him a chance.

lol, re the Koala's run outs. Ridiculous re Haddit inclusion. Highlights how dumb the Spivs were in not giving Gilchrist a go.
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Post by Fred Nerk Sun 10 May 2020, 10:04

lardbucket wrote:Haddin?

Haddin?

and Mark W over Steve?

I didn't think even Chappell was that bitter.

I can only assume that his residual brain cells fried when he was compelled to choose Bradman.

He's plenty that bitter. My surprise is that as many as half a dozen of us still consider him anywhere near that newsworthy.

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Post by Bradman Sun 10 May 2020, 10:18

Give him a break Fred. At least he got us talking.
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Post by JGK Sun 10 May 2020, 11:59

Bradman wrote:
horace wrote:Plus I'd have Tubby ahead of Simpson (sorry qmy).

Any SOO NSW team that doesn't include Border lacks all credibility.  As for TFF, it's your funeral.  Feel free to include Waugh S.  Bradman may be one of the few people he's never run out so it would be churlish not to give him a chance.

He excluded Border on the basis that he played mostly for Qld.

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Post by skully Sun 10 May 2020, 12:16

JGK wrote:
embee wrote:Crappelli's AT Dubber XII

Morris
Simpson
Bradman
Mark Waugh
McCabe
Miller (C)
Haddin (WK)
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reiily
McGrath
Benaud

Linky ...with reasons and his Barbados team


He's just embarrassing himself now.

MEW looks so out of place in that list.
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Post by Bradman Sun 10 May 2020, 12:21

I said SOO. Anyway any team that includes Mark "cruise to an easy 30 before dollying it up to midwicket" Waugh is a joke.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 11 May 2020, 11:39

Personally, Haddin and probably Simpson apart, I think it looks a fair team.

Like him or not, Australia owe a debt to Haddin. Without him, the 2006-07 Ashes would have been close, and not the rout it ended up as. About three time (IIRC), he rescued his country (as some call the team) from about 5-150 to potentially matchwinning scores.

And what that sort of turnaround can do - along with some crucial missed catches - I tried to explain on the "Series C" thread. Some very similar features between the two series, and not only the 5-0 outcome.

So I guess Chappell is repaying that debt. When otherwise, and by any independent standards, Brad should be nowhere near an ATG team.

Simpson has a case on the grounds of sheer flinty cussedness, at 7 or at 1. With a bit of useful legspin thrown in. But it's still hard to think of him as a "superstar".

I understand the garment-rending outrage at the preference for Mark over twin. And no doubt it's motivated 98% by jealousy and envy towards a captain of rival status and some similar qualities. But MEW was an outstanding, stylish and generally aggressive bat, which that team might be able to afford. In any case, wouldn't bear against him Chappelli's resentment towards his brother. If you see what I mean. Blame Ian, not Mark.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 11 May 2020, 11:42

Bradman wrote:I said SOO. Anyway any team that includes Mark "cruise to an easy 30 before dollying it up to midwicket" Waugh is a joke.

Harsh.

20 Test tons, 47 Test halves.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 11 May 2020, 11:50

What I'm scratching my head about is rather:

Where's Brett Lee?

Where's Stuey MacGill?

WHERE THE HELL IS BRUCE FRANCIS?!

Ian Chappell - hang your head in shame, boy. Got it badly wrong.
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Post by JGK Mon 11 May 2020, 12:14

Pete - are you thinking of 2013/4 Ashes re Haddin?


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Post by JGK Mon 11 May 2020, 12:15

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:
embee wrote:Crappelli's AT Dubber XII

Morris
Simpson
Bradman
Mark Waugh
McCabe
Miller (C)
Haddin (WK)
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reiily
McGrath
Benaud

Linky ...with reasons and his Barbados team


He's just embarrassing himself now.

MEW looks so out of place in that list.


Especially ahead of his twin, Dougie, Trumper and even Clarke.  In any case, he’s only warming the spot for when Smith retires.

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Post by Bradman Mon 11 May 2020, 12:28

PeterCS wrote:
Bradman wrote:I said SOO. Anyway any team that includes Mark "cruise to an easy 30 before dollying it up to midwicket" Waugh is a joke.

Harsh.

20 Test tons, 47 Test halves.

I'm a QLDER. Hating Mexicans is my birthright. It doesn't have to be rational.
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Post by PeterCS Mon 11 May 2020, 17:15

JGK wrote:Pete - are you thinking of 2013/4 Ashes re Haddin?


Errrum ... possibly.

I've become way too steeped in ancient history lately, I can hardly even climb out of the vat.

And so have only this vague notion of Haddin being a permanent thorn in England's side: in batting fightback after batting fightback. The unspoken man of the series.

Well, of some series.

Was it last year?


Or 2013-14.


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Post by PeterCS Mon 11 May 2020, 17:31

JGK wrote:
skully wrote:
JGK wrote:
embee wrote:Crappelli's AT Dubber XII

Morris
Simpson
Bradman
Mark Waugh
McCabe
Miller (C)
Haddin (WK)
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reiily
McGrath
Benaud

Linky ...with reasons and his Barbados team


He's just embarrassing himself now.

MEW looks so out of place in that list.


Especially ahead of his twin, Dougie, Trumper and even Clarke.  In any case, he’s only warming the spot for when Smith retires.

Now TRUMPER..... NOW you're speaking my language!

And, impossible as it may be to compare eras, he'd have to be a strong contender. Considered near-immortal in the decades where he was still "in living memory". Idolised by Mailey, for one.

Can't think why ...

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Post by JGK Tue 12 May 2020, 09:24

He scored as quickly as Viv Richards did in the days of genuinely uncovered pitches.

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Post by lardbucket Tue 12 May 2020, 21:23

for Woody: any room for Don Nash?

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Post by skully Tue 12 May 2020, 23:31

For lardy: Bruce Francis anyone?
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Post by horace Wed 13 May 2020, 01:48

Lardy brought a tear to my eye

Skully gave me stomach cramps from laughing.
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