Symonds racially abused by Indian crowd

furriner wrote:Merlo, as Elizabeth II and the Duke Of Edinburgh no doubt say to each other before retiring for the night, "A shilling earned is.... a shilling earned. Balls to everything else."

Batfink Begins wrote:I thought it would be more "Liz, can you p!ss on my chest whilst I'm rubbing myself off?".
"Of course Phil, as long as you sh!t in my mouth afterwards."

JKLever wrote:

Merlin wrote:

FWIW - that was a decent post

Well some of it was. Apart from the 'Aussies are and always have been by nature racist' part.

And the blatent NSR in the last paragraph.

Aside from that it was top stuff!

Batfink Begins wrote:

mirchy wrote:
When you consider that Howard has just accentuated the Aussie racist past by offering to amend their constitution in favour of recognising the Aborigine role, it only goes to prove that quite a few of the Australians are and have always been racist by nature. That being true, they are in for a round of spring cleaning before they sling mud at others. Most Indians are undoubtedly racist – amongst themselves. That was rightly pointed out by TO further up the thread. However, in a secular society, one must accept that there will be outcasts. What’s the point in making a big issue of it, especially when you carry ballast yourself.

I expect this issue was made, as I said before, that if it were in Australia they'd have had all kinds of stick by now. Of course a proportion of India are racist, they somewhat lack the difference of other's cultures by default that most are of that country's origin - hence my point that it wouldn't be unheard of that an Indian may well slate Australia for a similar story.

Batfink Begins wrote:

mirchy wrote:
Get off that moral high horse. Because the Aussies say so, doesn’t make them lily white. On the contrary, they make fools of themselves. Play cricket the way it was meant to be played. Quit messing around with idiotic mind games and “mental disintegration”, if you can’t accept being paid back in the same coin. Clearly the Indian approach, whatever you might think of it, has affected the Australian disposition.

Not on a moral high horse. Never said Aussies were lilywhite at all. They're cnuts. Everyone knows that. However, personally, I don't think it is the 'same coin' at all. Whatever I think of the Aussies, the way they go about their psychology actually has a bit of finesse. There is no overt aggression in the form of brain explosions, until recently anyway. They got on with it how other teams don't. If you can't see that then you're being a little biased IMO. The Indians have looked like f**king d!ckheads IMO and before you cite any other team - such as England - we looked the same post Ashes '05, versus Aus 06/07 and against India.

Batfink Begins wrote:

mirchy wrote:
Bullshit:
“Basically most of our old colonial outposts are well out of date. Need cleaning up. You all need to be as modern as over here. We've transcended all of these old bug-bears. We're too worried about flowers and the environment now.”

Whatever Murgh,
I was being silly there, but if I were to be pushed I'd say we're one of the most tolerant societies around ATM, hence many a person from a different country being desperate to live here.

mirchy wrote:I don’t think it’s ridiculous, Batfink. Unlike most here, I don’t think the jeers (if there were any) were racially motivated. They targeted a single individual who couldn’t keep his mouth shut from the very beginning of this tour and who then further agitated the now awakening Indians with his boorish attitude. Ponting has further fuelled the fire. To take it from there and make a racial discourse of it can only lead to a media-disaster during the Dec/Jan tour. Perhaps that's exactly what is meant to happen; increase circulation during the upcoming tour.

When you consider that Howard has just accentuated the Aussie racist past by offering to amend their constitution in favour of recognising the Aborigine role, it only goes to prove that quite a few of the Australians are and have always been racist by nature. That being true, they are in for a round of spring cleaning before they sling mud at others. Most Indians are undoubtedly racist – amongst themselves. That was rightly pointed out by TO further up the thread. However, in a secular society, one must accept that there will be outcasts. What’s the point in making a big issue of it, especially when you carry ballast yourself.



Get off that moral high horse. Because the Aussies say so, doesn’t make them lily white. On the contrary, they make fools of themselves. Play cricket the way it was meant to be played. Quit messing around with idiotic mind games and “mental disintegration”, if you can’t accept being paid back in the same coin. Clearly the Indian approach, whatever you might think of it, has affected the Australian disposition.



Bullshit:

“Basically most of our old colonial outposts are well out of date. Need cleaning up. You all need to be as modern as over here. We've transcended all of these old bug-bears. We're too worried about flowers and the environment now.”

HH_pink wrote:

Could you elucidate, please?

HH_pink wrote:
We've all seen how 'fine' they've been in their response to Indian aggression this series. Or is it okay to lose all that 'finesse' and blow your top when the opposite side are blowing theirs away?

HH_pink wrote:

That is not what the general perception is out of the UK. True, it is one of the more tolerant European societies, but apart from that I don't believe it's got much going for it. There's a lot of South Asian immigration into the UK mainly because of some kind of Freudian obsession with the former colonial power (and of course, it being one of the few English-speaking developed countries), I believe.

The One wrote:its all about the economy stupid. south asians migrate to rich english speaking countries for economic reasons, not for culture or tolerance (well most of them anyways)

in the few decades after independence the uk was a big magnet. but over the last 10 years i would say south asians emigrating to the us outnumber those to the uk by at least 5 to 1 (maybe more). aus/nz too are increasingly attractive

even within countries people migrate to richer centres