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Post by CricFan Fri 12 Oct 2007, 20:05

Since we started playing Tests against each other again in 1997 I think this is the first time
the series will be about IND bowling vs Pak Batting
Where as it has always been about
Pak bowling Vs Ind Batting

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Post by taipan Fri 12 Oct 2007, 20:15

Clash of the test Titans
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Post by The One Fri 12 Oct 2007, 20:57

frankly india's batting looks stronger than pakistan's as well. anything less than a series win would be a big upset

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Post by doremi Fri 12 Oct 2007, 21:07

Yeah. And it still will be India batting vs Pak bowling.
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Post by Makaveli Fri 12 Oct 2007, 21:32

Depends on the pitches really, we've been pretty shite in tests for a while now, we only have two test standard batsmen and our openers are crap. If India don't win they should be very dissapointed.
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Post by Jiffymix Fri 12 Oct 2007, 21:33

India (possible)
Jaffer
Karthik
Dravid
Tendulkar
Ganguly
Laxman
Dhoni
Kumble
Zaheer Khan
Sreesanth
RP Singh

Pakistan (possible)
Butt
Akmal
Younis Khan
Yousuf
Malik
Misbah-ul-Haq??
Faisal Iqbal??
Shazid Nazir??
Kaneria
Gul
Asif

India look better IMO, especially batting-wise. aces
I wonder who'll be Indian captain...
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Post by Makaveli Fri 12 Oct 2007, 21:39

My Pak team would be:

Butt
Taufeeq
YK
MoYo
Shahid Yousuf (we need to bring in a youngster)
Malik
Akmal
Rehman
Kaneria
Gul
Asif
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Post by doremi Fri 12 Oct 2007, 21:40

If the Indian management aren't totally brain-dead, they'll play another spinner. Sadly, RP will have to make way.


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Post by PearlJ Fri 12 Oct 2007, 22:29

doremi wrote:If the Indian management aren't totally brain-dead, they'll play a spinner. Sadly, RP will have to make way.

Eh? They can play a spinner and RP.....
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Post by HH_pink Fri 12 Oct 2007, 22:39

Makaveli wrote:My Pak team would be:

Butt
Taufeeq
YK
MoYo
Shahid Yousuf (we need to bring in a youngster)
Malik
Akmal
Rehman
Kaneria
Gul
Asif

Why no Misbah? He needs to be given a couple more chances to prove his worth, I feel.
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Post by Makaveli Fri 12 Oct 2007, 23:22

HH_pink wrote:
Makaveli wrote:My Pak team would be:

Butt
Taufeeq
YK
MoYo
Shahid Yousuf (we need to bring in a youngster)
Malik
Akmal
Rehman
Kaneria
Gul
Asif

Why no Misbah? He needs to be given a couple more chances to prove his worth, I feel.

I don't feel Misbah is a long term player he's 33, we need someone young while MoYo/YK are still around.
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Post by CricFan Sun 14 Oct 2007, 05:16

We already have three youngsters Our openers and Malik
and Misbah seems fit enough he could play for 5 to 6 years.

Although I think we should play akmal as an opener and bring in another keeper as akmal is playing better than our regular openers

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Post by SG Mon 15 Oct 2007, 05:06

Should be a good series.

I think Tanvir needs to be given a chance in this series. He looked quite good in Twenty20.

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Post by SG Mon 15 Oct 2007, 05:56

India (possible)
Jaffer
Karthik
Dravid
Tendulkar
Ganguly
Laxman
Dhoni
Kumble
Zaheer Khan
Sreesanth
RP Singh
No way India will play a single spinner in their lineup on Indian wickets. The tests will be held at Kotla, Eden Gardens and Chinnaswamy, not bad tracks for spinners.

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Post by SG Mon 15 Oct 2007, 05:59

Provided he is fit, I think Chawla will be given a chance in this series, if he is in selectors' scheme of things for Australian tour.

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Post by Henry Mon 15 Oct 2007, 07:07

Shahid Yousuf hasnt lived up to the expectations people had for him 2-3 years ago. What did Asim Kamal do wrong? The Pak middle order needs some grit, and he can provide it. But if they want a youngster to be blooded in the middle order, then surely Fawad Alam is now above S.Yousuf in the pecking order? Likely Pak-

Butt
Taufeeq
Younis
Yousuf
Malik(c)
Kamal
Akmal+
Rehman
Gul
Kaneria
Asif

Kaneria must be on thin ice, especially with the emergence of Rehman as a worthy spinning option. When was the last time Kaneria won a test for Pakistan, or took more than 3 wickets for less than 100 runs?
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Post by SG Mon 15 Oct 2007, 07:17

Henry wrote:When was the last time Kaneria won a test for Pakistan, or took more than 3 wickets for less than 100 runs?
Quite a tough thing to answer when was the last time Kaneria won a test for Pak, though its easier to tell the other thing.

Last time Kaneria took more than 4 wickets in an innings conceding less than 100 runs was against SL in SL in '06, when he took 4/53 in the first innings.

Infact this was just 9th occasion in 48 tests he played for Pak that he took more than 3 wickets by conceding less than 100 runs in an innings. Here are other of those occasions.

4-Ban
2-Eng
1-WI
1-SA

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Post by Henry Mon 15 Oct 2007, 07:21

So really, apart from his performances against Bangladesh, he's been pretty mediocre.
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Post by SG Mon 15 Oct 2007, 07:40

He performs well against Ban (16.41) and SL (25.87), mediocre against SA (30.44), WI (35.93), Ind (37.29) and NZ (39.00) and useless against Aussies (42.32) and Eng (45.14).

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Post by embee Mon 15 Oct 2007, 08:07

...but Poms are useless at playing leg spin
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Post by LeFromage Mon 15 Oct 2007, 08:29

They're all right against long hops and full tosses, though...
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Post by embee Mon 15 Oct 2007, 08:33

Not always ....

HERE
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Post by doctorspin Mon 15 Oct 2007, 11:21

Dello wrote:They're all right against long hops and full tosses, though...
Which makes Schofield's recent success all the more puzzling.
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Post by Chandan Mon 15 Oct 2007, 11:54

Will India not give a chance to Yuvi?

And I just hate Chinnaswamy ground. We never win there.

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Post by SG Mon 15 Oct 2007, 12:27

We used to be good at Chinnaswamy. But of late we're losing there quite consistently. We've lost last 4/5 tests we played there, with 1 against Eng in '01 was drawn.

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