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Post by Guest Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:17

That was over the top. Correct decision.

But Rudi gave a couple of Aussies out to balls that were no more over the top than that.

Hilf and Siddle swinging it on target though, and will create more chances.


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Post by Clutch Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:19

Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.
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Post by Guest Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:20

Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.

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Post by Clutch Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:24

Well Rudi's opinion is the only one that counts at the end of the day, but I reckon that Bell owes him a beer!
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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:24

Rob I wrote:
Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.
Did you say anything when a very similar Hawkeye showed Mitchell Johnson should have been given not out?

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Post by Red Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:26

Zat wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.
Did you say anything when a very similar Hawkeye showed Mitchell Johnson should have been given not out?

Yes, Hawkeye showed Mitch's wicket was one where the delivery was clearly going over the stumps. He was given out erroneously and also erroneously deprived of a wicket.
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:27

Zat wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.
Did you say anything when a very similar Hawkeye showed Mitchell Johnson should have been given not out?

Meh - pad up to a straight one, and I think it's fair enough that some of the benefit of doubt is lost.
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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:30

Red wrote:
Zat wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.
Did you say anything when a very similar Hawkeye showed Mitchell Johnson should have been given not out?

Yes, Hawkeye showed Mitch's wicket was one where the delivery was clearly going over the stumps. He was given out erroneously and also erroneously deprived of a wicket.
So Rob is now Red?

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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:32

Sorry to sound crude here, but stick that up your arse, Strauss...


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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:32

Crap shot, Johann. Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Guest Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:33

Zat wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.
Did you say anything when a very similar Hawkeye showed Mitchell Johnson should have been given not out?

I didn't specify MJ, though I did mention further up this thread that a couple of Aussies were given out to ones very similar to the Bell not-out, which suggests to me inconsistent interpretation by Rudi.

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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:34

Rob I wrote:
Zat wrote:
Rob I wrote:
Clutch wrote:Hawkeye is just a computer animation, it doesn't prove anything.

The ground-level cam seems to confirm Hawkeye.
Did you say anything when a very similar Hawkeye showed Mitchell Johnson should have been given not out?

I didn't specify MJ, though I did mention further up this thread that a couple of Aussies were given out to ones very similar to the Bell not-out, which suggests to me inconsistent interpretation by Rudi.
The biggest weapon an umpire can have in his armoury is consistency. Because at least the players have some idea what they need to do. It's something sorely lacking thus far.

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:36

Here you go Zatty, here's me on from page 62:

Yeah, I feel sorry for Johnno. He seems a likeable bloke and a huge talent. He got a rough one when he batted and then that terrible lbw decision against Shermi.

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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:39

Cheers Rob.

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Post by Red Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:44

It's refreshing to have a keeper who can keep.
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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:45

And let's look on the bright side. Rudi won't be umpiring any more in this series, for the fourth and fifth Test it's Billy Bowden and Asad Rauf.

Might as well kill myself now. I'm not a fan of Koertzen, but Bowden, I'm sure, genuinely thinks the crowd has paid money to watch him umpire, with the match being incidental.

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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 12:46

And you can tell Bell got bat on that. He didn't run all over the shop after getting it on the pad.

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Post by Clutch Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:02

Good catch
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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:02

Well bowled Hilfy.

So, will the ball now stop swinging during the lunch break?

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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:03

Loose, Colly, loose.

Just before lunch as well. Stooopid.
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Post by Clutch Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:04

Zat wrote:Well bowled Hilfy.

So, will the ball now stop swinging during the lunch break?

Yes, but it might start swinging again when it's bowled some more...
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Post by Nath Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:05

go hilfy!
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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:08

Clutch wrote:
Zat wrote:Well bowled Hilfy.

So, will the ball now stop swinging during the lunch break?


Yes, but it might start swinging again when it's bowled some more...
Oh har-de-har-har. Touche.

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Post by Merlin Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:09

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Loose, Colly, loose.

Just before lunch as well. Stooopid.
yep, no need at all to play at that, wide of off stump and going further away.

Well ... pressure innings needed from the Bellhop now ... needs to stay and build around the tail ...

Will he do it? Suspect

Off to play my game now so going to miss the last 2 sessions ...
... let's hope England are 300+ by c o p tonight with a couple still in the hutch.

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Post by Zat Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:36

Well, I've gotta hit the hay. In advance, I'll congratulate Ian Bell in advance on becoming the first Warwickshire player to score a Test century at Edgbaston.

And I'll ask the question, why - if Watson was brought in to strengthen the batting and the bowling - hasn't he bowled yet?

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