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Post by beamer Wed 23 Sep 2009, 05:40

http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/426024.html

So, how good is he, or could he become? Can't recall actually having seen him bat, unless I caught a bit of him playing in some meaningless Pro40 or something, don't tend to pay too much attention when Leicestershire are on the TV!

Apparently Broad was second, which is strange as I didn't think a player could win this twice. The list of recent winners reads like quite a Who's Who of international craptitude - Bopara, Bell, Anderson, Shah, and they're just the ones who did make it as far as playing a reasonable number of times for England. So in most cases it's not a guarantee of a great future, but it must be rare for someone as young as 19 to win it.

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Post by JKLever Wed 23 Sep 2009, 05:54

Seen him about 3 or 4 times max on TV - shortarse busy little player. Not struck me as someone who should be averaging close to 50 though tbh.

But i've only seen him in T20/Pro40 mode to be fair
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Post by PeterCS Wed 23 Sep 2009, 06:27

Not still down, and troubled, then?
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Wed 23 Sep 2009, 07:55

I reckon he's got something. Was impressed with him at Trent Bridge in the T20 this season.

Can't believe how small he is though!

He really is a diddy man.

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Even looks a bit like Doddy thinking about it . . .
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Post by PeterCS Wed 23 Sep 2009, 09:08

You just called out his name.
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Post by skully Wed 23 Sep 2009, 11:20

Who?
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Post by Zat Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:03

He's got a friend.

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Post by Henry Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:05

Statistically he deserves it. I guess Woakes and Hales were his only real competition. In the long term, I think Hales has more potential.
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Post by Zat Wed 23 Sep 2009, 16:03

So he's English? (as opposed to England Qualified...)

And hasn't the young player of the year award been somewhat of an albatross in the Aus cricket structure too?

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Post by Basil Wed 23 Sep 2009, 16:06

Let's see how Taylor goes next season before writing any eulogies - second season syndrome and all that.
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Post by Basil Wed 23 Sep 2009, 16:09

Andrew Symonds won the English version in 1995!!!
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Post by Zat Wed 23 Sep 2009, 16:27

1950 Roy Tattersall 16 Tests
1951 Peter May 66 Tests (41 as captain)
1952 Fred Trueman 67 Tests
1953 Colin Cowdrey 114 Tests (27 as captain), 1 ODI
1954 Peter Loader 13 Tests
1955 Ken Barrington 82 Tests
1956 Brian Taylor
1957 Micky Stewart 8 Tests
1958 Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie
1959 Geoff Pullar 28 Tests
1960 David Allen 39 Tests
1961 Peter Parfitt 37 Tests
1962 Phil Sharpe 12 Tests
1963 Geoff Boycott 108 Tests (4 as captain), 36 ODIs (2 as captain)
1964 Mike Brearley 39 Tests (31 as captain), 25 ODIs (25 as captain)
1965 Alan Knott 95 Tests, 20 ODIs (1 as captain)
1966 Derek Underwood 86 Tests, 26 ODIs
1967 Tony Greig 58 Tests (14 as captain), 22 ODIs (2 as captain)
1968 Bob Cottam 4 Tests
1969 Alan Ward 5 Tests
1970 Chris Old 46 Tests, 32 ODIs
1971 John Whitehouse
1972 Dudley Owen-Thomas
1973 Mike Hendrick 30 Tests, 22 ODIs
1974 Phil Edmonds 51 Tests, 29 ODIs
1975 Andrew Kennedy
1976 Geoff Miller 34 Tests, 25 ODIs
1977 Ian Botham 102 Tests (12 as captain), 116 ODIs (9 as captain)
1978 David Gower 117 Tests (32 as captain), 114 ODIs (24 as captain)
1979 Paul Parker 1 Test
1980 Bill Athey 23 Tests, 31 ODIs
Graham Dilley 41 Tests, 38 ODIs
1981 Mike Gatting 79 Tests (23 as captain), 92 ODIs (37 as captain)
1982 Norman Cowans 19 Tests, 23 ODIs
1983 Neil Foster 29 Tests, 48 ODIs
1984 Rob Bailey 4 Tests, 4 ODIs
1985 David Lawrence 5 Tests, 1 ODI
1986 Ashley Metcalfe
James Whitaker 1 Test, 2 ODIs
1987 Richard Blakey 2 Tests, 3 ODIs
1988 Matthew Maynard 4 Tests, 14 ODIs
1989 Nasser Hussain 96 Tests (45 as captain), 88 ODIs (56 as captain)
1990 Michael Atherton 115 Tests (54 as captain), 54 ODIs (43 as captain)
1991 Mark Ramprakash 52 Tests, 18 ODIs
1992 Ian Salisbury 15 Tests, 4 ODIs
1993 Mark Lathwell 2 Tests
1994 John Crawley 37 Tests, 13 ODIs
1995 Andrew Symonds 22 Tests, 193 ODIs for Australia
1996 Chris Silverwood 6 Tests, 7 ODIs
1997 Ben Hollioake 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
1998 Andrew Flintoff 72* Tests (11 as captain), 138* ODIs (14 as captain)
1999 Alex Tudor 10 Tests, 3 ODIs
2000 Paul Franks 1 ODI
2001 Owais Shah 2* Tests, 52* ODIs
2002 Rikki Clarke 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
2003 James Anderson 31* Tests, 101* ODIs
2004 Ian Bell 45* Tests, 79* ODIs
2005 Alastair Cook 36* Tests, 23* ODIs
2006 Stuart Broad 10* Tests, 42* ODIs
2007 Adil Rashid
2008 Ravi Bopara 3* Tests, 33* ODIs

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Post by Henry Wed 23 Sep 2009, 17:41

There's more than a few FFS's in there from the last 25 years.
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Post by Bradman Wed 23 Sep 2009, 17:54

Some of the early one's weren't bad though.
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Post by JGK Wed 23 Sep 2009, 18:46

Aye - was going to say that the standard really fell off after 1980.

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Post by Nath Wed 23 Sep 2009, 20:42

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Post by Allan D Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:12

According to the Playfair Cricket Annual, Taylor was born in Nottingham in January 1990 but was educated at Shrewsbury, alma mater of Charles Darwin, Michael Palin and the founders of Private Eye and played for Worcs 2nds and Shropshire while still at Shrewsbury. He made his Leicestershire debut last year.

Although the Cricket Writers' selections have won over 2000 Test caps between them (including 26 Test caps & 198 ODI caps by Andrew Symonds for Australia) there have been some notable gaffes, such as in 1971 when Bob Willis (despite having been part of an Ashes-winning side when he was flown out to replace Alan Ward) was overlooked in favour of the Warwickshire batsman, John Whitehouse, in 1972 when Willis was again overlooked in favour of the Surrey batsman, Dudley Owen-Thomas and in 1975 when Graham Gooch was overlooked in favour of the Lancashire batsman, Andrew Kennedy.

None of the 3 award-winners from those years went on to win a single Test or even ODI cap whereas Willis and Gooch did quite well, as I recall.
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Post by DJ_Smerk Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:15

Zat wrote:1950 Roy Tattersall 16 Tests
1951 Peter May 66 Tests (41 as captain)
1952 Fred Trueman 67 Tests
1953 Colin Cowdrey 114 Tests (27 as captain), 1 ODI
1954 Peter Loader 13 Tests
1955 Ken Barrington 82 Tests
1956 Brian Taylor
1957 Micky Stewart 8 Tests
1958 Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie
1959 Geoff Pullar 28 Tests
1960 David Allen 39 Tests
1961 Peter Parfitt 37 Tests
1962 Phil Sharpe 12 Tests
1963 Geoff Boycott 108 Tests (4 as captain), 36 ODIs (2 as captain)
1964 Mike Brearley 39 Tests (31 as captain), 25 ODIs (25 as captain)
1965 Alan Knott 95 Tests, 20 ODIs (1 as captain)
1966 Derek Underwood 86 Tests, 26 ODIs
1967 Tony Greig 58 Tests (14 as captain), 22 ODIs (2 as captain)
1968 Bob Cottam 4 Tests
1969 Alan Ward 5 Tests
1970 Chris Old 46 Tests, 32 ODIs
1971 John Whitehouse
1972 Dudley Owen-Thomas
1973 Mike Hendrick 30 Tests, 22 ODIs
1974 Phil Edmonds 51 Tests, 29 ODIs
1975 Andrew Kennedy
1976 Geoff Miller 34 Tests, 25 ODIs
1977 Ian Botham 102 Tests (12 as captain), 116 ODIs (9 as captain)
1978 David Gower 117 Tests (32 as captain), 114 ODIs (24 as captain)
1979 Paul Parker 1 Test
1980 Bill Athey 23 Tests, 31 ODIs
Graham Dilley 41 Tests, 38 ODIs
1981 Mike Gatting 79 Tests (23 as captain), 92 ODIs (37 as captain)
1982 Norman Cowans 19 Tests, 23 ODIs
1983 Neil Foster 29 Tests, 48 ODIs
1984 Rob Bailey 4 Tests, 4 ODIs
1985 David Lawrence 5 Tests, 1 ODI
1986 Ashley Metcalfe
James Whitaker 1 Test, 2 ODIs
1987 Richard Blakey 2 Tests, 3 ODIs
1988 Matthew Maynard 4 Tests, 14 ODIs
1989 Nasser Hussain 96 Tests (45 as captain), 88 ODIs (56 as captain)
1990 Michael Atherton 115 Tests (54 as captain), 54 ODIs (43 as captain)
1991 Mark Ramprakash 52 Tests, 18 ODIs
1992 Ian Salisbury 15 Tests, 4 ODIs
1993 Mark Lathwell 2 Tests
1994 John Crawley 37 Tests, 13 ODIs
1995 Andrew Symonds 22 Tests, 193 ODIs for Australia
1996 Chris Silverwood 6 Tests, 7 ODIs
1997 Ben Hollioake 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
1998 Andrew Flintoff 72* Tests (11 as captain), 138* ODIs (14 as captain)
1999 Alex Tudor 10 Tests, 3 ODIs
2000 Paul Franks 1 ODI
2001 Owais Shah 2* Tests, 52* ODIs
2002 Rikki Clarke 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
2003 James Anderson 31* Tests, 101* ODIs
2004 Ian Bell 45* Tests, 79* ODIs
2005 Alastair Cook 36* Tests, 23* ODIs
2006 Stuart Broad 10* Tests, 42* ODIs
2007 Adil Rashid
2008 Ravi Bopara 3* Tests, 33* ODIs



Soooooo pooooor.
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Post by JKLever Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:20

1975 Andrew Kennedy

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
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Post by DJ_Smerk Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:23

Atleast in the year of my birth, I will have Richard farking Blakey to remind me of the quality of English cricket at the time.


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Post by JKLever Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:27

Farking hell you're a whipper snapper.

'In the year of my Birth, Richard Blakey' FFS FFS!!!
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Post by DJ_Smerk Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:37

Chill out Fell, no big deal. Anyone born in 2005 should reap the praise when they turn my age Cool
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Post by Allan D Wed 23 Sep 2009, 22:07

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Post by Allan D Wed 23 Sep 2009, 22:09

Taylor is, by my reckoning, the fourth teenager to win the award after Knott, Hollioake and Rashid.
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Post by taipan Wed 23 Sep 2009, 22:11

Actually, apart from a few glaring exceptions, these awards seem to be spot on.
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