Re: The Australian Federal Election 2010 Thread (III)

by PeterCS Tue 24 Aug 2010, 00:51

ewwww

by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 00:52

And they be virgins too. That'd suit three guys who will be able to carry on like eastern Potentates for the next three years.

by Paul Keating Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:01

JGK wrote:Apparently the coalition have blown out in the betting after today's counts. Might be time to double up given that ALP looks like ending up on 72.

Sorry can you please explain how the ALP might only end up with 72?

Thanks

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:06

why are we still counting by hand ffs

by PeterCS Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:09

distracts some from fapping for a few mins

by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:09

Florida 2000

by bodyline Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:11

G.Wood wrote:why are we still counting by hand ffs

Because the AEC employees are ASU members.

At any rate - I don't think it is out of the possibility that we could be back to the polls within the next month - a 76 majoirty with the help of independents doesn't sound stable for a federal government - might be OK at a state level - but states don't really control the economy.

by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:16

People are now talking a national Govt of Unity.

Only slightly more loopy than Turnbull serving in a Gillard cabinet and Rudd vice versa.

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 01:35

bodyline wrote:
G.Wood wrote:why are we still counting by hand ffs

Because the AEC employees are ASU members.
.

Makes as much sense as anything. The TAB manages to do far more complicated calculations almost instaneously and the it has been able to train westie pinkos, qlders and other challenged groups to fill in those tickets

by bodyline Tue 24 Aug 2010, 02:04

G.Wood wrote:
bodyline wrote:
G.Wood wrote:why are we still counting by hand ffs

Because the AEC employees are ASU members.
.

Makes as much sense as anything. The TAB manages to do far more complicated calculations almost instaneously and the it has been able to train westie pinkos, qlders and other challenged groups to fill in those tickets

Why don't we just vote via Foxtel on Sky racing just after the last in your state. Then we have a result in about 2 hours and the rest of the Election TV event could be turned into Factional Ultimate fight night!

by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 03:00

Aye. We've had the ability to do online voting since we had a national TAB.

Would make election nights less intesting though so the TVs wouldn't like it.

by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 03:02

Paul Keating wrote:
JGK wrote:Apparently the coalition have blown out in the betting after today's counts. Might be time to double up given that ALP looks like ending up on 72.

Sorry can you please explain how the ALP might only end up with 72?

Thanks

Dension is back to a 400 vote margin with still a third of prefs to be allocated.

by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 03:04

Dunkley now below 500 lead for the Libs:

Two Candidate Preferred
Polling Places Returned: 40 of 40 Turnout: 78.07% Candidate Party Votes This Election (%) Last Election (%) Swing (%)
CONSTAS, Helen Australian Labor Party 35,493 49.65 45.96 +3.69
BILLSON, Bruce Liberal 35,990 50.35 54.04 -3.69

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 03:13

JGK wrote:Aye. We've had the ability to do online voting since we had a national TAB.

Would make election nights less intesting though so the TVs wouldn't like it.

better security checks than what's your middle name could also be adopted.

But I'm sure Bronny was grateful for my 5 votes

by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 04:54

A good idea. A ten year old kid can hack Pentagon files, but let's vote online.

Voting via the TAB would be better. Only slow talking hicks, dole bludgers or those who have some experience of the real world would know how to use the system.

The ALP would be a shoo-in.

On a more serious note. The big issue from this election is the first order of business once parliament sits is to amen the Electoral Act to ensure there is never an even number of HoR seats.

by embee Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:02

Bradman wrote:A good idea. A ten year old kid can hack Pentagon files, but let's vote online.

Voting via the TAB would be better. Only slow talking hicks, dole bludgers or those who have some experience of the real world would know how to use the system.

The ALP would be a shoo-in.

On a more serious note. The big issue from this election is the first order of business once parliament sits is to amen the Electoral Act to ensure there is never an even number of HoR seats.

Isnt it even because the Speaker comes out ?

Should the speaker be an "independent" appointee rather than a member of the HoR?

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:04

by Bradman Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:10

embee wrote:
Bradman wrote:A good idea. A ten year old kid can hack Pentagon files, but let's vote online.

Voting via the TAB would be better. Only slow talking hicks, dole bludgers or those who have some experience of the real world would know how to use the system.

The ALP would be a shoo-in.

On a more serious note. The big issue from this election is the first order of business once parliament sits is to amen the Electoral Act to ensure there is never an even number of HoR seats.

Isnt it even because the Speaker comes out ?

I believe that's the case mb.

Should the speaker be an "independent" appointee rather than a member of the HoR?

And that may be the answer to the conundrum above. I was going to have a bitch about the speaker in my post but got distracted before I sent it. Constitutionally I don't think we could swing a non MP. Though a constitutional amendment might pass to appoint as speaker some suitably qualified person from outside after a joint sitting. Said appointee to have the same sort of tenure as a High Court Judge.

by Hass Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:13

Bradman wrote:AVoting via the TAB would be better. Only slow talking hicks, dole bludgers or those who have some experience of the real world would know how to use the system.

Back in the 1980s my father actually oversaw a tender to introduce voting via the TAB in South Australia.

There were some bods in the government and the state electoral commission who liked the concept, but the majority ended up getting cold feet.

The idea was that results would be calculated electronically but that a paper trail of TAB tickets had to be available for hand recounts in close or disputed races.

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:19

The major issue would be that they couldn't afford to have TABs off-line (or partially tied up) on a saturday. All elections would have to be held on Good Friday

by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:25

Looks like Wilkie has won Denison.

All over for Julia.

Hopefully Sportsbet will pay out later today.

by JGK Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:32

Although Hasluck and Dunkley are within 400 so still an outside chance for the good guys.

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:33

Aren't they still a chance of stopping the Wozzie history maker?

by G.Wood Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:34

by Hass Tue 24 Aug 2010, 05:36

embee wrote:

Should the speaker be an "independent" appointee rather than a member of the HoR?

Most certainly.

It would require a change to the constitution, but it would do wonders for our democracy.

Have an indepdent speaker appointed by a 2/3 majority of the House and ratified by a majority of 100 electors chosen at random, a la jury duty.

Such a process would ensure the speaker has bipartisan support. The ratification process would ensure we avoid the two major parties handing out "jobs for the boys" or taking a "my turn, your turn" approach.

I'd give the speaker a fixed five-year term. They could be removed through a process of impeachment identical to the one in place for High Court judges.

I'm sure such a proposal would pass at a referendum. Australians usually vote down referendum proposals because they seek to give the government/politicians more power. A truly indepdendent speaker would instead be weakening the government's power over parliament.

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