Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical

by Zat Mon 25 Jul 2011, 07:31

bodyline wrote:
embee wrote:cricket ...no ....but there is talk that T20 will be included in 2020

Golf and sevens in 2016 and 2020 - not sure they'd have time to include T20.

Rogge was talking last month about the ICC making a bid for inclusion in 2020. Olympic recognistion is why the ICC is pushing women's cricket in a big way, and the push into China is for a similar reason tooo.

by Mick Sawyer Mon 25 Jul 2011, 08:23

embee wrote:cricket ...no ....but there is talk that T20 will be included in 2020

Wow, even that surprises me. My cricket exclusion holds then.

by Henry Mon 25 Jul 2011, 09:23

Cadel Evans is one of those unfortunate people who always looks like he's about to burst into tears. Or is it because i've only seen him in post-race interviews?

by Paul Keating Mon 25 Jul 2011, 09:36

No I actually think he is that kind of person.

Very emotional person.

Saw his wife on the TeeVee. Very attractive.

by JGK Mon 25 Jul 2011, 11:41

Mick Sawyer wrote:In rating grand achievements I'd downgrade the billing in sports like cricket, billiards, swimming, yachting, rugby & motor racing. There are too few participants or financial barriers to entry at the elite level.

Olympic medals to Herb Elliott in Rome, Peter Norman and Ralph Doubel in Mexico City, Raelene Boyle in Mexico & Munich, Debbie Flintoff in Barcelona, Freeman in Sydney, perhaps Hooker in China quickly come to mind. De Castella and Rawlinson's world championships, the 1974 soccer players were extraordinary results in a world context. For now though, still in the heat of the moment perhaps, Evans's win gets the gong.

How is cricket more elite than cycling where the top riders have $20,000 bikes?

by WideWally Mon 25 Jul 2011, 11:46

Cricketers own cars?

by lardbucket Mon 25 Jul 2011, 13:34

Cadel's win better than Dizzy's 200? Tell him he's dreaming ...

by G.Wood Tue 26 Jul 2011, 00:04

JGK wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:In rating grand achievements I'd downgrade the billing in sports like cricket, billiards, swimming, yachting, rugby & motor racing. There are too few participants or financial barriers to entry at the elite level.

Olympic medals to Herb Elliott in Rome, Peter Norman and Ralph Doubel in Mexico City, Raelene Boyle in Mexico & Munich, Debbie Flintoff in Barcelona, Freeman in Sydney, perhaps Hooker in China quickly come to mind. De Castella and Rawlinson's world championships, the 1974 soccer players were extraordinary results in a world context. For now though, still in the heat of the moment perhaps, Evans's win gets the gong.

How is cricket more elite than cycling where the top riders have $20,000 bikes?

I thought it was banjos who had difficulty with comprehension

Mick didn't say Cricket was elite, he said there were too few participants

by embee Tue 26 Jul 2011, 02:21

In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

by horace Tue 26 Jul 2011, 03:11

and RD is now qualifying for a Disability pension or engy/geologist equivalent

by G.Wood Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:04

embee wrote:In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

He's hired a truck and gone looking for Poms??

by Bradman Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:10

G.Wood wrote:
embee wrote:In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

He's hired a truck and gone looking for Poms??

You'd get shot in any Territory pub if you said that. It was an insurance job and Falconio and the bint are living it up in an extradition free gin palace. Other ways to get dead in an NT pub include saying "The dingo did it" and "Commercial fishermen are being screwed by the reccies".

by embee Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:11

Should have done that last December/January ....

by embee Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:15

Bradman wrote:
G.Wood wrote:
embee wrote:In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

He's hired a truck and gone looking for Poms??

You'd get shot in any Territory pub if you said that. It was an insurance job and Falconio and the bint are living it up in an extradition free gin palace. Other ways to get dead in an NT pub include saying "The dingo did it" and "Commercial fishermen are being screwed by the reccies".

So ...Lindy did do it? ...amd Mudoch didnt? ...or just not in the minds of Territorians?

by Bradman Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:29

Lindy wasn't a Territorian. Neither were Falconio or Lees. Territorians don't like suggestions they or their wildlife are feral. It wouldn't be too off the mark that close to 100% of NTers believe that it was some drugs thing gone wrong or he was in cahoots with them over something.

FWIW I'm still on the fence in both cases. I hope neither is ever really conclusively solved one way or another as sitting to listen to Territorians and their wild conspiracy theories at happy hour on a Friday afternoon is one of life's rare pleasures.

by G.Wood Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:31

embee wrote:Should have done that last December/January ....

Aye, but there would not have been much chance of Cook or KP walking along the Stuart Hwy

by Bradman Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:44

G.Wood wrote:
embee wrote:Should have done that last December/January ....

Aye, but there would not have been much chance of Cook or KP walking along the Stuart Hwy

If he's in to offing Poms he could show up with me tonight to a MM roadshow gig. I can give him the directions to Barrow Ck and a ute.

by JGK Tue 26 Jul 2011, 09:31

embee wrote:In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

Speaking of which, is the Territory the only province in the world to produce a Tour de France winner, a Test debut double centurion and a hella grouse investment banker?

by skully Tue 26 Jul 2011, 09:36

Bradman wrote:
G.Wood wrote:
embee wrote:Should have done that last December/January ....

Aye, but there would not have been much chance of Cook or KP walking along the Stuart Hwy

If he's in to offing Poms he could show up with me tonight to a MM roadshow gig. I can give him the directions to Barrow Ck and a ute.

I hear Wolf Creek II is in the works.

by Bradman Wed 27 Jul 2011, 01:36

JGK wrote:
embee wrote:In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

Speaking of which, is the Territory the only province in the world to produce a Tour de France winner, a Test debut double centurion and a hella grouse investment banker?

What! No Damien Martyn?

by horace Wed 27 Jul 2011, 02:01

heard him on radio yesty...seems a very decent person...in response to various claims about which part of the country he identifies with he said he was born in the NT and lived his first 3 to 4 years in an aboriginal community...then later in Armadale (dubber variety) and then Eltham and and now Ocean Grove (both Vix)...said he considered himself as Oz first

by G.Wood Wed 27 Jul 2011, 02:16

Bradman wrote:
JGK wrote:
embee wrote:In celebration of Cadel's win ...JGK has gone Territorian on us

Speaking of which, is the Territory the only province in the world to produce a Tour de France winner, a Test debut double centurion and a hella grouse investment banker?

What! No Damien Martyn?

I had assumed DM had gone into investment banking

by embee Wed 27 Jul 2011, 02:56

I assumed investment banker was rhyming slang

by G.Wood Wed 27 Jul 2011, 03:10

some things are self evident

by Mick Sawyer Thu 28 Jul 2011, 04:04

JGK wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:In rating grand achievements I'd downgrade the billing in sports like cricket, billiards, swimming, yachting, rugby & motor racing. There are too few participants or financial barriers to entry at the elite level.

Olympic medals to Herb Elliott in Rome, Peter Norman and Ralph Doubel in Mexico City, Raelene Boyle in Mexico & Munich, Debbie Flintoff in Barcelona, Freeman in Sydney, perhaps Hooker in China quickly come to mind. De Castella and Rawlinson's world championships, the 1974 soccer players were extraordinary results in a world context. For now though, still in the heat of the moment perhaps, Evans's win gets the gong.

How is cricket more elite than cycling where the top riders have $20,000 bikes?

It's not. I put cricket aside on the basis of global participation. Yachting (think Australia II) & Motor Racing (think Brabham or Jones) are excluded due to the financial barriers to entry at the elite level.

With that said, I have wondered why Mick Doohans 5 world championships haven't received a mention in this discussion anywhere I've read.

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