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Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 08:54

I know its still three months off but its worth noting that there are 10 new sites & stage cities. Tour kicks off in Dusseldorf (of which i have fond memories of a pub crawl through the old town) & also passes through Belgium & Luxembourg.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by tricycle on Thu 30 Mar 2017, 11:16

Shitty route this year trying to aid shitty french tour contenders.

In terms of current racing, Durbridge seems to be going well on the cobbles.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 10:13

Will have to wait for the Dauphiné in June to get any real form indications.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by taipan on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 15:24

Froome and Sky are going to targeted by the French press.
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Post by tricycle on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 17:00

Best chance for Froome to do the tour vuelta double. Quintana doing the Giro. Valverde likely to be biggest challenger.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 10:21

Simon Yates has been added to the Orica squad for the TdF as a precaution for Chaves's knee injury. This means he will not contest the Giro.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Mon 08 May 2017, 08:10

Bump........two months to go
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Bradman on Wed 10 May 2017, 02:54

So it's a tour of eastern and southern France then?
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Post by taipan on Wed 10 May 2017, 06:42

taipan wrote:Froome and Sky are going to targeted by the French press.

And motorists.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-10/tour-de-france-champion-chris-froome-unhurt-in-training-accident/8512738
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Post by Big Dog on Wed 10 May 2017, 08:17

Bradman wrote:So it's a tour of eastern and southern France then?

Also Germany & Belgium this year.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Sun 28 May 2017, 08:08

Bumpety
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by JGK on Sun 28 May 2017, 08:52

Can't see anyone getting close to Froome.

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Post by Big Dog on Sun 28 May 2017, 23:06

JGK wrote:Can't see anyone getting close to Froome.

We'll have a better idea after the Dauphiné next week.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by tricycle on Wed 31 May 2017, 02:30

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-route-192041

Boring, boring route. So few opportunities that I can see Froome hammering lpdbf and controlling after that.

And 22km of TT. Still too many for Bardet

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Post by Big Dog on Wed 31 May 2017, 08:34

tricycle wrote:http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-route-192041

Boring, boring route. So few opportunities that I can see Froome hammering lpdbf and controlling after that.

And 22km of TT. Still too many for Bardet

Like the Giro, a time trial at the end might still lead to an exciting finale.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by taipan on Wed 31 May 2017, 08:44

Big Dog wrote:
tricycle wrote:http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-route-192041

Boring, boring route. So few opportunities that I can see Froome hammering lpdbf and controlling after that.

And 22km of TT. Still too many for Bardet

Like the Giro, a time trial at the end might still lead to an exciting finale.

Like the Fignon/LeMond race. The closest of all time.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by JGK on Wed 31 May 2017, 08:48

Stage 13, July 14 Saint Girons – Foix 100km Mountains

Only 100km in a day? Is it all uphill?

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Post by JGK on Wed 31 May 2017, 08:52

Stage 9 looks brutal:


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Post by tricycle on Wed 31 May 2017, 12:02

The 100km stage is so disappointing. If that had been up and down continuously without a valley, it'd be likely to be the best stage of the race (like Alpe d'Huez in 2011 the day after Schleck's Galibier solo).

taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
tricycle wrote:http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-route-192041

Boring, boring route. So few opportunities that I can see Froome hammering lpdbf and controlling after that.

And 22km of TT. Still too many for Bardet

Like the Giro, a time trial at the end might still lead to an exciting finale.

Like the Fignon/LeMond race. The closest of all time.
Apart from the last week of racing, this year's Giro was one of the worst GTs in recent years imo. Very insipid two weeks, with routes to match. Last week was good, and that was mainly because of the Dumoulin surprise factor. My issue here is that the favourite is the best climber and not far off the best time trialist either.

To be fair about 1989, it's like expecting a tied test. Two top riders in fine form, only separated by stupid tri bars.
As of now, I see only Porte likely to match Froome for some time before his usual fade/f*ck up. Unless Froome's not in form. Contador just doesn't seem to be at the required level these days. Can't see Quintana being in top form after the Giro.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Mon 12 Jun 2017, 09:53

For the first time in a number of years, Froome will not start as favorite. Doesnt mean he is out of it by any stretch of the imagination but there are at least half a dozen riders, on current form, who are better placed.
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Post by Big Dog on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 08:10

Orica-Scott have dropped Simon Gerrans for the Tour. It will be the first time since 2009 that he has'nt started.
Orica-Scott for the Tour de France
Michael Albasini (SUI), Esteban Chaves (COL), Luke Durbridge (AUS), Mat Hayman (AUS), Damien Howson (AUS), Daryl Impey (RSA), Roman Kreuziger (CZE), Jens Keukeleire (BEL), Simon Yates (GBR).
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by JGK on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 09:02

Big Dog wrote:For the first time in a number of years, Froome will not start as favorite. Doesnt mean he is out of it by any stretch of the imagination but there are at least half a dozen riders, on current form, who are better placed.


Who is favourite?

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Post by Big Dog on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 09:15

JGK wrote:
Big Dog wrote:For the first time in a number of years, Froome will not start as favorite. Doesnt mean he is out of it by any stretch of the imagination but there are at least half a dozen riders, on current form, who are better placed.


Who is favourite?

Can't find the link but Froome himself conceded that Porte will start favorite over him. Might be gamesmanship but Froome doesnt normally play those games plus his results this year have been well below par. The usual suspects in Quintana, Nibali & Contador will, no doubt, also have a say.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by WideWally on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 09:24

Sportsbet's market has -
Froome $2.50
Porte $2.80
Quintana $8.00
Contador $17.00
Aru $17.00
Fuglsang $21.00
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 09:29

Also looking forward to see if Sagan can take another green jersey. Kittel & Matthews have the ability to challenge. Its a shame Orica have withheld their new sprinting young gun, Caleb Ewan. It would have been good to see what he could do against the master.
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