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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 23 Aug 2012, 06:07

His 183 against Pakistan and the innings against SL were unbelievably brilliant. The innings against Pakistan was probably one of the top 3 innings ever in an ODI game. Even in test matches he was India's best batsman on his first tour of Australia
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Post by lardbucket Thu 23 Aug 2012, 09:34

PlanetPakistan wrote:The innings against Pakistan was probably one of the top 3 innings ever in an ODI game

... because it was fast?

It was a good innings, but one of the best 3 ODI innings since 1971? You are kidding. What about Kapil Dev in that World Cup, which he single-handedly saved then won for India? Steve Waugh's innings that saved and then won us the WC v South Africa? Ponting in that WC final v India in South Africa? Gilchrist? Herschelle Gibbs? Any one of a number of utterly brilliant innings by Viv Richards? Allan Lamb's onslaught v Bruce Reid? Michael Bevan's salvage effort v West Indies? Saeed Anwar? The Bangladeshi hero who almost single-handedly flogged the Aussies? Then there wass this bloke called Tendulkar ... and another even better chap called Lara ...

I doubt it's even amongst the best 3 ODI innings played by an Indian, or even by Indians not called Sachin.


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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 23 Aug 2012, 12:04

Lards, the 'man' has the thought processes of a 6 year old.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:36

lardbucket wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:The innings against Pakistan was probably one of the top 3 innings ever in an ODI game

... because it was fast?

It was a good innings, but one of the best 3 ODI innings since 1971? You are kidding. What about Kapil Dev in that World Cup, which he single-handedly saved then won for India? Steve Waugh's innings that saved and then won us the WC v South Africa? Ponting in that WC final v India in South Africa? Gilchrist? Herschelle Gibbs? Any one of a number of utterly brilliant innings by Viv Richards? Allan Lamb's onslaught v Bruce Reid? Michael Bevan's salvage effort v West Indies? Saeed Anwar? The Bangladeshi hero who almost single-handedly flogged the Aussies? Then there wass this bloke called Tendulkar ... and another even better chap called Lara ...

I doubt it's even amongst the best 3 ODI innings played by an Indian, or even by Indians not called Sachin.

Not so much...none of those innings were as good as Kohli's knock

Viv Richard's 189* is the best innings ever after that it is a bit debatable
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Post by lardbucket Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:39

So for you it's Viv, then Kapil, then Kohli?



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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:41

i will not include Kapil's innings due to the weak attack that he was facing.

A Razzaq's innings vs SA in 2010 was probably better than Kapil's
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Post by taipan Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:42

Gibbs and Ponting in the 438 game were both better.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:43

look what that 'weak' attack did to that year's WC winners before Kapil went off

It's the situation that made that innings truly great

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Post by Henry Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:45

Ponting and Gilchrist's innings in the final of the 2003 and 2007 World cups respectively, Herschelle's knock in the 438 game, Steve Waugh's innings' against South Africa in the 1999 World Cup, Viv and Kapil's innings (that have been mentioned).....

PP needs to realise that great ODI knocks also need context.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:47

that Pakistani ballet dancer played a good knock when he was about 12, too

what of Saeed's 194, PP? Not up to scratch?

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Post by taipan Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:50

Didn't Gazza get a 189?
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Post by Henry Thu 23 Aug 2012, 13:52

Afridi's 37 ball hundred on debut, back when he was still a sperm?
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Post by The One Thu 23 Aug 2012, 14:18

i doubt many commenting on here saw kohli's knock. since the early 90s i have seen most of the great innings either live or later on, and kohli's knock was right up there

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Post by Henry Thu 23 Aug 2012, 14:28

Yes, but ultimately what was at stake?
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Post by lardbucket Thu 23 Aug 2012, 14:29

No doubt it was a fine innings, but amongst the 3 best ever played?

LINK to some other 'nominations'

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Post by The One Thu 23 Aug 2012, 14:30

an india-pakistan match in the current political climate. and a place in the asia cup finals

nothing really was at stake in viv's innings, the 438 match, etc etc

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Post by taipan Thu 23 Aug 2012, 14:35

The One wrote:an india-pakistan match in the current political climate. and a place in the asia cup finals

nothing really was at stake in viv's innings, the 438 match, etc etc

Everyone remembers the 438 game. Who remembers Kohli's knock
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Post by lardbucket Thu 23 Aug 2012, 14:37

The most interesting thing about this discussion is the great difficulty people are having recalling many wonderful ODI innings from more than 20 years ago. Just Kapil Dev's monstering knock, and Viv.


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Post by The One Thu 23 Aug 2012, 15:11

i havent seen any odis from before 20 years ago, so cant say much. they are not as much of a discussion point as of course tests from years ago

only ones i have heard of could be collis king in the 79 WC final. miandad in sharjah. am at a real loss after that

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Post by spangler Thu 23 Aug 2012, 15:22

Gatting in 87
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Post by The One Thu 23 Aug 2012, 15:27

ah yes. the fat f*cker

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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 24 Aug 2012, 14:02

Henry wrote:Afridi's 37 ball hundred on debut, back when he was still a sperm?
Shahid bhai's innings is certainly up there in top 5 and may just have been on par if not better than Kohli's

Despite some very weak teams and easy batting condition in 16 years no one has even come CLOSE to breaking that record.

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Post by Henry Fri 24 Aug 2012, 14:19

Didn't Jayasuriya make a 40 ball century? That's pretty close.......
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 24 Aug 2012, 15:32

Mudge, you're off your tits. Jaya's not Pakistani, so it couldn't have been that good.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Sat 25 Aug 2012, 05:18

Henry,
Jayasuriya's 100 was of 48 balls.
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