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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:06

Where's this? I want to understand how!
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Post by beamer Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:08

Who's gone second then?

Anyway, Smuthy's 100th Test it appears... if you count the World XI match. One of the select group of players who will effectively get to celebrate the milestone twice!

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Post by JKLever Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:09

Tweets on cricinfo...

''cricketicc England extend lead as top Test team after annual Reliance ICC Rankings update #cricket''

''cricketicc Australia is now second, South Africa third, Pakistan (4th), India (5th) after anual update of Reliance ICC Test rankings''

How? results from 4-5 years ago are lobbed off the record to give credence to more recent results (I think)
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:10

I knew how, I suppose. But it makes a mockery of the rankings.
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Post by taipan Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:13

Brass Monkey wrote:I knew how, I suppose. But it makes a mockery of the rankings.

I have always considered the rankings a mockery.
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Post by JKLever Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:14

I actually must be in a minority because I think the ICC rankings are quite fair - SA didn't win for something like 4 home test series (?) and so if a few winning series are lobbed off from a while back to give precedence to them. fair do's imo.

The reason the 3-0 reverse to Pak didn't hurt so much for us is that we lost the previous series 2-0. If we'd won it we'd have lost those points.
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Post by taipan Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:19

Nah, SA went top about 8 years back when Aus were clearly the best
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Post by JKLever Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:23

taipan wrote:Nah, SA went top about 8 years back when Aus were clearly the best

There is always the chance of an anomaly. SA obviously deserved it on results, being top doesn't make you automatically an all time great side like WI or AUS.

Anyway, if you want to see a farked up rankings system look no further than FIFA which has England at 4 !! I think the ICC rankings do tell a story in that there isn't a ciggie paper between the top 4.
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Post by Invader Zim Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:33

England should win this pretty comfortably you'd think.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:38

What makes you think that?
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Post by JKLever Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:46

He's probably doing the old reverse woofaroo
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:49

The classic hoodwink! I should've known.
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Post by Invader Zim Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:54

Well England are at home, have been playing for months, are settled, and supremely confident.

The Yarps have had little game time, have lost their keeper, are playing away from home, and are playing for top spot.

I'd be surprised if the Yarps win a day, let alone a Test.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:55

Laughing Good times.
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Post by taipan Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:55

Almost like old times
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Post by Invader Zim Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:56

Erm yeah sure Suspect
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:58

Invader Zim wrote:Erm yeah sure Suspect

You're a f*cking Herbert.
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Post by Invader Zim Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:59

What's that when its at home?
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 14 Jul 2012, 13:04

Foolish!
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Post by PeterCS Sat 14 Jul 2012, 13:05

How did you "enjoy" Pomgolia et la Belle France, Zimbo?
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Post by Invader Zim Sat 14 Jul 2012, 13:06

shrug it's what I think.
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Post by beamer Sat 14 Jul 2012, 13:13

Invader Zim wrote:Well England are at home, have been playing for months, are settled, and supremely confident.

The Yarps have had little game time, have lost their keeper, are playing away from home, and are playing for top spot.

I'd be surprised if the Yarps win a day, let alone a Test.
So, one day to England, 14 to the rain?

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Post by Guest Sat 14 Jul 2012, 13:15

When was the last series involving England of 3 or more tests that ended 0-0?

Strong possibility if the weather stays as it is.

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Post by Invader Zim Sat 14 Jul 2012, 13:23

FFS. You have a good team. Revel in it. Cos it will end.
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Post by Red Sun 15 Jul 2012, 03:49

http://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/ProteasinEngland/Proteas-prepared-for-the-worst-20120714

More references to 'undercooked'. Smile
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