Re: UK politics thread (II)

by taipan Mon 07 Oct 2019, 03:39

Bradman wrote:A lot of western govts give money to TI. It does some good work. It's the Nye Bevan News, architect of the welfare state. They would find any excuse to stir up anyone who is not a rabid socialist. Not knocking Nye Bevan, just pointing out the people behind this paper have an agenda.

Yeah, I get that.

by Bradman Mon 07 Oct 2019, 04:15

Actually the agenda bit was a tad stupid. All people who control media outlets have an agenda. Despite the denials of the people who work for them.

by embee Mon 07 Oct 2019, 04:50

The Nye Bevan website proclaims their left wing bias ...although horrie thinks it's far right

by Bradman Mon 07 Oct 2019, 05:10

Yeah the title gives it away. I should have said most instead of all.

by horace Mon 07 Oct 2019, 11:55

The Webb's used to call "The Boy Bevan'.

We have them to thank for Brisbane City Council.

by Bradman Mon 07 Oct 2019, 12:22

by horace Thu 10 Oct 2019, 17:35

Sydney and Beatrice Webb were key progressive proponents of the Greater London Council. They visited Oz on a speaking tour and strongly encouraged amalgamations of small urban councils to city sized Councils. They saw the GLC model as having economies of scale but high levels of responsiveness to constituents.

Parts of Qld inc Brisbane were quite progressive and Brisbane bit on the Webb ideas plus others and developed their own unique city wide Council.

Iirc the Webb's sent Bevan out to help and observe early implementation. The Webb's loved Bevan and used to publicly call him the "Boy Bevan''.

by Bradman Thu 10 Oct 2019, 19:30

Gough used to say if he couldn't be PM he'd like to be Lord Mayor of Brisbane. Near dictatorial powers over the seventh largest government in the country.

by horace Thu 10 Oct 2019, 20:27

Bradman wrote:Gough used to say if he couldn't be PM he'd like to be Lord Mayor of Brisbane. Near dictatorial powers over the seventh largest government in the country.

Nice. Qmy who was the old fashioned labour mayor credited with completing the Sewering of Brisbane?

by horace Thu 10 Oct 2019, 20:31

And it looks like BoZo has begun to recognise realities in Ireland. Varadker is an impressive person. Recommend the Guardians coverage of their meeting.for those interested.

by lardbucket Thu 10 Oct 2019, 21:41

Horrie

Alderman Clem Jones, after whom Terry Alderman was nicknamed Clem.

by horace Thu 10 Oct 2019, 23:55

Ta . A much loved figure

by Bradman Fri 11 Oct 2019, 04:01

Was curator at the Gabba for years too, whilst Mayor even. Put in the Gabba dog track to stick it up the racing crowd who were tight with Joh.

by lardbucket Fri 11 Oct 2019, 19:51

https://australianracinggreyhound.com/tracks/gabba/

by horace Sat 12 Oct 2019, 07:04

Thanks L and Q.

The dog track was a great idiosyncratic feature.

The Gabba is still a wonderful ground to watch cricket.

by JGK Wed 16 Oct 2019, 08:11

So, BoJo's latest Brexit plan looks a lot like May's plan.

by skully Wed 16 Oct 2019, 09:03

That was always a lay down misere, cos no way the Euros were gonna go back and start from scratch.

I see that qunt Corbyn has already said he won't support whatever Boris comes up with. Rolling Eyes

by JGK Wed 16 Oct 2019, 09:13

The bigger qunt is Rees-Mogg who says he will support it having rejected it when May put it forward.

by taipan Wed 16 Oct 2019, 10:25

skully wrote:That was always a lay down misere, cos no way the Euros were gonna go back and start from scratch.

I see that qunt Corbyn has already said he won't support whatever Boris comes up with.

Qunt Corbyn has only one policy. The opposite of whatever the tories propose

by skully Wed 16 Oct 2019, 10:58

JGK wrote:The bigger qunt is Rees-Mogg who says he will support it having rejected it when May put it forward.

Meet you halfway and say that they are each as qunty as the other.

by Basil Wed 16 Oct 2019, 19:58

I wonder if the DUP are being set up to be thrown under the bus if / when this plan hits the buffers.

by JGK Thu 17 Oct 2019, 07:04

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:The bigger qunt is Rees-Mogg who says he will support it having rejected it when May put it forward.

Meet you halfway and say that they are each as qunty as the other.

Done.

As I've said for a while, the only person who will come out of the sorry affair with any sort of integrity intact is Theresa May.

by JGK Thu 17 Oct 2019, 07:05

By the way, it is astonishing that GB could well have more incompetent and self-obsessed pollies than we do. That genuinely takes some doing.

by Basil Thu 17 Oct 2019, 07:48

DUP not supporting the current proposals.

I reckon Boris would still have a fighting chance of getting a bill through Parliament if he attached provision for a second referendum.

by taipan Thu 17 Oct 2019, 08:40

JGK wrote:
skully wrote:
JGK wrote:The bigger qunt is Rees-Mogg who says he will support it having rejected it when May put it forward.

Meet you halfway and say that they are each as qunty as the other.

Done.

As I've said for a while, the only person who will come out of the sorry affair with any sort of integrity intact is Theresa May.

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