Re: UK politics thread (II)

by beamer Thu 20 Oct 2022, 21:43

Now it’s a question of whether enough MPs can stop the party members bringing Boris back.

by skully Thu 20 Oct 2022, 23:04

Shirley they won't go back to Boris?

by embee Fri 21 Oct 2022, 00:48

Longest serving Pommy PM sworn in in Scotland

by JGK Fri 21 Oct 2022, 04:38

KC3 already up to his second PM - he's on track to beat mum in a fraction of the time.

by beamer Fri 21 Oct 2022, 12:00

skully wrote:Shirley they won't go back to Boris?

If he gets as far as the members then he’s all but guaranteed. Could be a mutiny of MPs though, with some hinting they will quit or defect to other parties if it happens.

by horace Sat 22 Oct 2022, 02:54

Truly bizarre.

by lardbucket Sat 22 Oct 2022, 02:55

The definition of a Truss: balls up, guaranteed.

by skully Sat 22 Oct 2022, 03:01

horace wrote:Truly bizarre.

Hey, great to see you, h.

Everything ok?

by beamer Sat 22 Oct 2022, 10:58

lardbucket wrote:The definition of a Truss: balls up, guaranteed.

Ed Balls might be a better shout! (Wrong party, I know… and retired from politics, though his wife’s still a Labour frontbencher. Sensibly didn’t take his surname.)

by beamer Sat 22 Oct 2022, 11:04

Anyway, seems either a Johnson or Sunak win would split the party down the middle and lead to more carnage. The only other confirmed candidate, Penny Mordaunt, doesn’t seem to be getting much momentum.

Around 40 defections/resignations from the party could force a General Election. Meanwhile, Boris if he returns could be forced out again by Christmas via the Partygate inquiry.

by embee Sat 22 Oct 2022, 15:38

Alastair Cook batted longer in FC cricket than Truss lasted as PM

by lardbucket Mon 24 Oct 2022, 10:56

Boris has withdrawn, hasn't he?

by beamer Mon 24 Oct 2022, 11:26

lardbucket wrote:Boris has withdrawn, hasn't he?

Yeah, he has now. Claims he had twice as many backers as publicly revealed, but says he’s doing it for the sake of party unity after the other candidates wouldn’t make a deal with him (I’m sure all such acceptable deals from his side had him as PM). All about him, as usual…

by beamer Mon 24 Oct 2022, 14:24

And Rishi is in. A bit of stability (he had backing from all wings of the party, and it’s only the staunch Boris supporters that seem too pissed off) or just another stepping stone to an early election? Time will tell…

by Fred Nerk Tue 25 Oct 2022, 04:08

embee wrote:Alastair Cook batted longer in FC cricket than Truss lasted as PM

In 1974 Brian Clough was manager of Leeds United for exactly the same length of time as Truss was PM. Truss's family were Leeds supporters, she did half her secondary education at a Leeds school and later studied at Leeds University. Her PM acceptance speech at several points referred to or quoted Clough's Leeds predecessor, Don Revie.

by skully Tue 25 Oct 2022, 05:12

A Bannie as UK PM??

Whodathunkit.

by beamer Tue 25 Oct 2022, 08:13

skully wrote:A Bannie as UK PM??

Whodathunkit.

Well, he was born in the UK to parents born in Tanzania and Kenya (who were obviously themselves of Indian parentage).

His wife is the daughter of one of India’s richest men. So the Downing Street redecoration shouldn’t be an issue. In fact, King Charles might be asking him for the odd fiver to help with the energy bills…

by skully Tue 25 Oct 2022, 08:21

Cheers beams.

He looked very robotic during his acceptance speech. Thunderbirds are go.

Is it a stretch for me to say the Brexit vote had a modicum of racism in it ("ban those lousy migrants")? Ironic if so, that the UK has a man of colour in the top job.

by beamer Tue 25 Oct 2022, 09:52

skully wrote:Cheers beams.

He looked very robotic during his acceptance speech. Thunderbirds are go.

Is it a stretch for me to say the Brexit vote had a modicum of racism in it ("ban those lousy migrants")? Ironic if so, that the UK has a man of colour in the top job.

It’s interesting, because the ethnic minority Tories often tend to be more vocally anti-migrant and anti-“woke” than the white ones (e.g. former Home Secretaries Priti ‘Vacant’ Patel and Suella ‘De Vil’ Braverman, either of whom could be reinstated to that job today). Not sure if Sunak falls into that category himself but there is that sense that with immigrant backgrounds themselves, they can say things that white politicians wouldn’t dare to…

Still not sure, though, whether the predominantly elderly Conservative Party membership would have voted for Sunak given a straight choice between him and a white candidate, even if it wasn’t Boris.

In terms of his politics, at least he seems more pragmatic and hopefully will swerve both Johnson’s “cakeism” and Truss’s crackpot ideological fixations. It will depend on how much he can tame the rogue elements/competing wings of the party though.

by skully Tue 25 Oct 2022, 10:14

A successful career in finance can't hurt the Tories.

by beamer Tue 25 Oct 2022, 10:35

Yeah, at least he’s financially literate which has to be an essential quality for the job in this scenario.

by beamer Tue 01 Nov 2022, 12:00

Matt Hancock’s heading to Australia to be force-fed croc cock etc. in the jungle Laughing

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