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Post by doremi Mon 21 Apr 2008, 21:08

Ash wrote:
Lara Lara Laughs wrote:So, to kick us off, 2000-2008 (yes, I know it's not a full decade) would probably be:

Hayden
Langer sehwag
Ponting
Tendulkar dravid
Lara
Kallis
Gilchrist +
Pollock
Flintoff shoaib
Warne (c) murali
McGrath

Reserves for this decade:

Trescothick langer
Dravid tendulkar
Murali warne
Boucher
Steyn lee

Yup, pretty much spot on. Although I'd like to fit in Kumble somewhere in the reserves. At no. 17 perhaps. Also, Boucher seems weak-ish in comparison to the others in the team.
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Post by Ash Mon 21 Apr 2008, 21:28

sehwags record this decade as an opener is only behind haydens. langer had the luxury of a solid opener alongside him. i wonder when sehwag starts getting his due.

thought about gooch but his career straddled 2 decades. he didnt play after 95 and thats gotta count against him. maybe we can look at teams for each 5 yr period (imran khan suggested this as most players peak period)? didnt see much of gooch, kirsten was pretty dire though his record stacks up but for me de silva was an artist as well as being very consistent. no contest.

doremi, bouchers surely the 2nd best keeper-batsman of his generation.
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Post by JKLever Mon 21 Apr 2008, 21:41

Ash wrote:

thought about gooch but his career straddled 2 decades.

3 decades. Debut in 1975 & last game in 1995

Gooch got better as he was older. 1990---> was his best period in test cricket, averaged over 52 for the last part of his career after the age of 37

Simply the greatest runscorer in the English game i've ever seen. This innings is still the best i've ever seen by an Englishman....



Ok, Goochie fawning over with...
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Post by doremi Mon 21 Apr 2008, 21:54

I'd have Sangakkara personally as the reserve keeper.
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Post by PearlJ Mon 21 Apr 2008, 22:20

Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:90s

Slater
Anwar
Lara
Tendulkar
S. Waugh
Ponting
Healy+
Warne*
Donald
Ambrose
McGrath

Do me a favour, you rusty-tromboner. He's well down the list. Aussie one-eyedness.

Averaged 45. Well good.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Mon 21 Apr 2008, 22:50

PearlJ wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:90s

Slater
Anwar
Lara
Tendulkar
S. Waugh
Ponting
Healy+
Warne*
Donald
Ambrose
McGrath

Do me a favour, you rusty-tromboner. He's well down the list. Aussie one-eyedness.

Averaged 45. Well good.


Avg 39 vs Windies, 32 vs England, 36 vs India, 39 vs NZ. Well good. Should walk into a team of the decade with those returns.
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Post by PearlJ Mon 21 Apr 2008, 23:06

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:90s

Slater
Anwar
Lara
Tendulkar
S. Waugh
Ponting
Healy+
Warne*
Donald
Ambrose
McGrath

Do me a favour, you rusty-tromboner. He's well down the list. Aussie one-eyedness.

Averaged 45. Well good.


Avg 39 vs Windies, 32 vs England, 36 vs India, 39 vs NZ. Well good. Should walk into a team of the decade with those returns.

Plus 50 v SA, 64 v Pakistan and 63 v SL

I'm glad you agree.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Mon 21 Apr 2008, 23:22

cyclops

You're almost as bad as tac.
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Post by PearlJ Mon 21 Apr 2008, 23:28

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:cyclops

You're almost as bad as tac.

I tell it like it is. Some people just can't handle that. Very Happy
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 22 Apr 2008, 08:29

PJ. Ponting only played 33 games and in that time period, there were many other worthy candidates, including Boon, Gooch, Saleem Malik, De Silva, Jimmy Adams, Ganguly, Taylor, Smith, Azhar, Inzi Andrew Jones FFS. Either you don't want your team of the decade to be the best of the decade or you've got a huge schoolgirl crush on Riggy Ponning.
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Post by JGK Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:11

Shouldn't the qualficatiob be the decade that the person made their debut. Otherwise it gets subjective as to which decade was their "best".


Fwiw my shot at the 70s

Sunny
Greenidge
Viv
G chappell
Javed
Border
Immy
Knott (not sure when he debuted. Marsh otherwise)
Marshall
Lillee
Qadir

I'd back that team over any of the others mentioned above.

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Post by Leo Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:14

I'll take a shot at the 60s and earlier (hopefully Peter and TYA will be along soon to clean up any errors I make):

1960s:

1. Bob SIMPSON
2. Bill LAWRY
3. Garry SOBERS
4. Graeme POLLOCK
5. Ken BARRINGTON
6. Rohan KANHAI
7. Trevor GODDARD
8. Denis LINDSAY (wk)
9. Richie BENAUD (c)
10. Peter POLLOCK
11. Wes HALL

Reserves: Conrad Hunte, Norm O'Neill, Colin Cowdrey, Ted Dexter, Farokh Engineer, Graeme McKenzie and Lance Gibbs

1950s:

1. Len HUTTON
2. HANIF Mohammad
3. Denis COMPTON
4. Neil HARVEY
5. Vijay HAZARE
6. Frank WORRELL (c)
7. Keith MILLER
8. Alan DAVIDSON
9. Wally GROUT (wk)
10. Fred TRUEMAN
11. Jim LAKER

Reserves: Everton Weekes, Clyde Walcott, Godfrey Evans, Neil Adcock, Subhash Gupte, and Hugh Tayfield

Which decade to place Hutton, Benords and Davo could be debated. I included Worrell because of his captaincy and leadership.

I'm sure I've forgotten some players who should be here.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:18

JGK wrote:Shouldn't the qualficatiob be the decade that the person made their debut. Otherwise it gets subjective as to which decade was their "best".

No. Basically, you haven't done teams of the decade - so it's pretty irrelevant.
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Post by doremi Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:22

Just list the best players who played in that decade. Simple.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:26

doremi wrote:Just list the best players who played in that decade. Simple.

Think it was LLL's ridiculous idea about only being in one team. If you're the best in two decades, you'd be in the best of the decade both times.
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Post by Paul Keating Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:26

Leo wrote:I'll take a shot at the 60s and earlier (hopefully Peter and TYA will be along soon to clean up any errors I make):

1960s:

1. Bob SIMPSON
2. Bill LAWRY
3. Garry SOBERS
4. Graeme POLLOCK
5. Ken BARRINGTON
6. Rohan KANHAI
7. Trevor GODDARD
8. Denis LINDSAY (wk)
9. Richie BENAUD (c)
10. Peter POLLOCK
11. Wes HALL

Reserves: Conrad Hunte, Norm O'Neill, Colin Cowdrey, Ted Dexter, Farokh Engineer, Graeme McKenzie and Lance Gibbs

1950s:

1. Len HUTTON
2. HANIF Mohammad
3. Denis COMPTON
4. Neil HARVEY
5. Vijay HAZARE
6. Frank WORRELL (c)
7. Keith MILLER
8. Alan DAVIDSON
9. Wally GROUT (wk)
10. Fred TRUEMAN
11. Jim LAKER

Reserves: Everton Weekes, Clyde Walcott, Godfrey Evans, Neil Adcock, Subhash Gupte, and Hugh Tayfield

Which decade to place Hutton, Benords and Davo could be debated. I included Worrell because of his captaincy and leadership.

I'm sure I've forgotten some players who should be here.

I would have Peter May in the 50s team maybe for Hazare.
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Post by Paul Keating Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:28

and Grout was more the 60s.
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Post by holcs Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:29

Ash wrote:90s:

anwar
slater
de silva
tendulkar
lara
s waugh
stewart
wasim
warne
ambrose
donald

kumble
atherton
healy
azharuddin
waqar (tough call over mcgrath)

A must IMO in a 90's side. The man is a dead set farking Legend!
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Post by PearlJ Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:39

Brass Monkey wrote:PJ. Ponting only played 33 games and in that time period, there were many other worthy candidates, including Boon, Gooch, Saleem Malik, De Silva, Jimmy Adams, Ganguly, Taylor, Smith, Azhar, Inzi Andrew Jones FFS. Either you don't want your team of the decade to be the best of the decade or you've got a huge schoolgirl crush on Riggy Ponning.

Pretty much Very Happy

Ponting's record can be matched with most of those players in the 90s. Plus Ponting didn't average under 30 against any opposition. Quite of those players did....

de Silva is the only one I would consider having over him.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:41

shrug Fair enough, there's about 10 better batsmen in the decade at least, but it's all subjective I suppose. Pick the bloke who played only 33 Tests in the decade versus quite a few attacks on the wane.
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Post by PearlJ Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:42

Brass Monkey wrote:shrug Fair enough, there's about 10 better batsmen in the decade at least, but it's all subjective I suppose. Pick the bloke who played only 33 Tests in the decade versus quite a few attacks on the wane.

Gooch, maybe. de Silva, maybe. Not many others I can think of.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:43

Boon. Malik.

Probably Gooch, in that he possibly played the best bowlers over his half decade.
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Post by holcs Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:56

Brass Monkey wrote:Boon. Malik.

Probably Gooch, in that he possibly played the best bowlers over his half decade.

Fark off Dan, Boon/Malik over the Legend that is Aravinda??? Your farking carzy I tells ye!!!!

And yes I am cyclops

Gooch is an opener so doesn't compare!
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:59

Well, I was talking about Ponting, but Aravinda's not a number 3 anyway so what sort of f'kin criteria are you using you hysterical Dorset qunt?
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Post by holcs Tue 22 Apr 2008, 14:04

Brass Monkey wrote:Well, I was talking about Ponting, but Aravinda's not a number 3 anyway so what sort of f'kin criteria are you using you hysterical Dorset qunt?

Aravinda could bat anywhere the mans a legend I tells ye!!!

Ponting was at 6 in PJ's original team!!!
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