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Post by taipan Wed 26 Sep 2007, 15:08

The One wrote:there is no tax on gifts from close relations, i.e. parents, spouses, children. every other transaction carries a tax

So he is liable for the tax.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 26 Sep 2007, 15:51

SG wrote:Anyhow, import duty on a Porsche 911 attracts 113% import duty in India.

Even with 113% import duty, a Porsche 911 costs about the same as in Britain. Laughing
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:14

*Buckaroo* wrote:
SG wrote:Anyhow, import duty on a Porsche 911 attracts 113% import duty in India.

Even with 113% import duty, a Porsche 911 costs about the same as in Britain. Laughing

If it wasn't for the fact that the average Indian earns 8.37% of what the average Britain does that would be worth gloating about. 😢
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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:24

Gary 111 wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:
SG wrote:Anyhow, import duty on a Porsche 911 attracts 113% import duty in India.

Even with 113% import duty, a Porsche 911 costs about the same as in Britain. Laughing

If it wasn't for the fact that the average Indian earns 8.37% of what the average Britain does that would be worth gloating about. 😢

The population of above-average Indians who can do that is inching closer to the entire population of US. So technically speaking there are many Indians who have the purchasing power to park a Porsche in their parking lot.

One tiny hitch though is that Porsche has pretty low ground clearance, so most Indians look towards the SUV because of road conditions.

Another fact is that Porsche is opening its first assembling plant outside EU in India. That should say something.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:28

Good for them. They can all look big man Matt Prior in the eye and not feel a sense of inferiority.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:30

they never had a 'sense of inferiority' when they looked into the eyes of 'that man'.

I think it is Pietersen who uttered somethin about Porsches.
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Post by Merlin Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:33

*Buckaroo* wrote:

Another fact is that Porsche is opening its first assembling plant outside EU in India. That should say something.

Aye.
Helluva cheaper to assemble in India than in Germany.

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Post by Merlin Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:34

*Buckaroo* wrote:they never had a 'sense of inferiority' when they looked into the eyes of 'that man'.

I think it is Pietersen who uttered somethin about Porsches.

Try Prior.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:34

Merlin wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:

Another fact is that Porsche is opening its first assembling plant outside EU in India. That should say something.

Aye.
Helluva cheaper to assemble in India than in Germany.

Bull .. they have the same prices everywhere. Just convert Euros in Rupees.

And they are just piggybacking on VW's assembling plant and not setting up anything of their own. But nevertheless ...
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Post by The One Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:36

Gary 111 wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:
SG wrote:Anyhow, import duty on a Porsche 911 attracts 113% import duty in India.

Even with 113% import duty, a Porsche 911 costs about the same as in Britain. Laughing

If it wasn't for the fact that the average Indian earns 8.37% of what the average Britain does that would be worth gloating about. 😢

gdp per capita is 2% not 8.37%

the carrera in india is around $157,000. in the uk it is for around $125,000. so its cheaper in the uk

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Post by Gary 111 Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:36

*Buckaroo* wrote:they never had a 'sense of inferiority' when they looked into the eyes of 'that man'.

I think it is Pietersen who uttered somethin about Porsches.

But Matt Prior is a big man isn't he? I mean he's not afraid of anyone. I bet he drives a big car.


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Post by Merlin Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:37

*Buckaroo* wrote:
Merlin wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:

Another fact is that Porsche is opening its first assembling plant outside EU in India. That should say something.

Aye.
Helluva cheaper to assemble in India than in Germany.

Bull .. they have the same prices everywhere. Just convert Euros in Rupees.

And they are just piggybacking on VW's assembling plant and not setting up anything of their own. But nevertheless ...

You really think so .....
Good. You believe that if it makes you feel better ...

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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:38

they never pass on the benefits of lower cost to their customers.

that's what I meant.
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Post by Merlin Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:41

*Buckaroo* wrote:they never pass on the benefits of lower cost to their customers.

that's what I meant.
My pardon - yes you are right. , it never happens in an ideal world.
Mind you, no car manufacturer does - well, not since the East German govt forced Trabant to ...

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Post by doremi Wed 26 Sep 2007, 18:30

SG wrote:Yuvraj is being gifted a Porsche by BCCI. How will Prior sledge Indians now?

Also, it appears that mindless BCCI officials and Maharashtra politicians are busy hogging the limelight in the function orgainsed to felicitate Twenty20 champs at Wankhede. Only Dhoni was seated in the front row alongwith BCCI officials and politicians, while rest other players were seated in the second row.

Not BCCI, personal gift by Modi.
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Post by filosofee Fri 28 Sep 2007, 15:13

*Buckaroo* wrote:

The population of above-average Indians who can do that is inching closer to the entire population of US. So technically speaking there are many Indians who have the purchasing power to park a Porsche in their parking lot.


But the number of those, in India, who cannot afford even the paint on a corgi model of a motor rikshaw is, probably, considerably more than twice US's population!
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Post by filosofee Fri 28 Sep 2007, 15:18

Juicy Fruity wrote:
Chandan wrote:Congratulations to India and commiserations to Pakistan. Both the teams played extremely well in the tournament. I was really impressed by Shaib Malik's captaincy too until he gave his post match speech!

Dhoni was very impressive too, and we've found a good young batsman, Rohit Sharma. Let us hope that he blossoms in the One day format and then the longer version of the game, test cricket too.

Pathan was very impressive, though he hasn't bowled as yet with the new ball. His speed was really surprising against Australia. Yuvraj was fabulous, Gambhir was consistent, RP Singh was fantastic and even Sree was superb vs Australia.

Hope we have enough talent for the future!!

I know what you're saying, but you have to acknowledge the fact that English isn't his first language and when he said 'I want to thank the muslims around the world' I think he probably meant all the Pakistanis around the world. Also, it's the month of Ramadan and people were praying for Pakistan to do well, so it could possibly be a reference to that.

Anyway, I'll give him the benefit of doubt. Pakistani players shouldn't give interviews in English, they get misinterpreted far too many times.

He was most probably thinking about Ramzan and Muslims around the world fasting, not reasoning that 'all Muslims' follow cricket and support Pakistan. Many people have used the world stage to comment on something other than what that stage was offered for, in most cases harmless and inoffensive. If you're offended by what was said on Monday - tough!
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 28 Sep 2007, 15:21

Brilliant excuse and rebuttal. It was pathetic.
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Post by filosofee Fri 28 Sep 2007, 15:26

Batfink Begins wrote:Brilliant excuse and rebuttal. It was pathetic.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Mine is that he meant no genuine offence. If everyone verbally/textually tread on eggshells for fear of offending others, no one would speak or write. No matter who you are, and what you say or write, you'll offend some - deal with it.
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Post by The One Fri 28 Sep 2007, 18:02

hilarious

"No matter who you are, and what you say or write, you'll offend some"

thats original. how come no other speech throughout the tournament or indeed in any past world cup comes even close to this one in being offensive to so many?

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Post by *Buckaroo* Fri 28 Sep 2007, 18:24

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 42 BC
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Post by HH_pink Fri 28 Sep 2007, 18:26

Why don't you just eff off, Bucky boy?
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Post by filosofee Fri 28 Sep 2007, 20:37

The One wrote:hilarious

"No matter who you are, and what you say or write, you'll offend some"

thats original. how come no other speech throughout the tournament or indeed in any past world cup comes even close to this one in being offensive to so many?

Rhetorical question: how many of those "so many" give a hoot about the plight of Dalits in India, indeed that large number of Indians who do not have your opportunity to find hilarity on a cyberspace forum? Get real, there are really offensive things in this world such as innocent women murdered in the name of 'honour', the stock-piling of biological/chemical weapons for 'benign purposes' and starving children in Africa.
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Post by HH_pink Fri 28 Sep 2007, 21:20

filosofee wrote:
The One wrote:hilarious

"No matter who you are, and what you say or write, you'll offend some"

thats original. how come no other speech throughout the tournament or indeed in any past world cup comes even close to this one in being offensive to so many?

Rhetorical question: how many of those "so many" give a hoot about the plight of Dalits in India, indeed that large number of Indians who do not have your opportunity to find hilarity on a cyberspace forum? Get real, there are really offensive things in this world such as innocent women murdered in the name of 'honour', the stock-piling of biological/chemical weapons for 'benign purposes' and starving children in Africa.

By your own logic filo, what someone finds offensive is purely that person's business. That someone doesn't feel that all those things you've mentioned are offensive (or if they do, don't go talking about it on a cricket forum), does not mean they don't have the right to get offended by Shoaib Malik's statement. To each its own offensiveness scale...
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Post by *Buckaroo* Fri 28 Sep 2007, 21:24

What we have here is the ultimate Islamist argument:

if you point out that their fly is open, they will point back that your shirt is torn.

it is then supposed to be equal-equal.
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