Re: The Football Thread - 10/11 (II)

by JGK Fri 24 Jun 2011, 10:42

Meanwhile, the Australian team beats the England team in a football international.

Linky

by JKLever Fri 24 Jun 2011, 11:21

Aussies are better at football than cricket these days...

by PeterCS Fri 24 Jun 2011, 11:56

Wouldn't be difficult ...

by JGK Fri 24 Jun 2011, 15:15

JKLever wrote:Aussies are better at football than cricket these days...

Sort of like England in reverse.

by JGK Tue 28 Jun 2011, 04:38

Cracker of a goal in the Gold Cup final

by JKLever Tue 28 Jun 2011, 11:43

Still have to pinch myself that Ipswich actually managed to snag him on loan for a couple of months...

In other news, Wickham to Sunderland for £13mn - bite their hands off.

by Chivalry Augustus Tue 28 Jun 2011, 11:46

Wickham is a typical English footballer. Big lad, players bounce off him, but technically he is no better than anyone else in his age group. I've seen him come up against Forest a few times now, and he has struggled to get a kick past Wes Morgan of all people. He missed a couple of sitters the season before last when we won 3-0, and if he played in any of the league matches in the season just gone, I didn't notice. It's no surprise that he has eventually ended up at Sunderland, where he can slowly fulfill his mediocre potential, than in the dream land teams that were originally suggested - your Man Utds, Arsenals and even Tottenhams. I'd be well chuffed if I was an Ipswich fan, was it not Paul Jewell who would be spending the proceeds.

by JKLever Tue 28 Jun 2011, 12:00

Ssssh, he's not gone yet.

by LeFromage Tue 28 Jun 2011, 17:05

Only £5 mills up front. For an 18 year old footballer who has been sh!t hot at all the England youth levels, I reckon that's a pretty good deal in the current mental climate.

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 29 Jun 2011, 09:45

Augustus - he's just turned 18 FFS. "The season before last" when he missed some sitters he would have been 16 or 17. Sheesh. No one's saying he's Messi but he could be decent.

by LeFromage Wed 29 Jun 2011, 10:00

Not that he'd be well served joining Sunderland to plough a lone furrow up front in Steve Bruce's shapeless, skill-less, hoof and hope of side.

by JKLever Wed 29 Jun 2011, 11:09

I'm hearing it's £9m upfront with £4m add-ons. £5m would be a first instalment.

It's a good deal for us, he was hardly an important cog in a poor team last year. Let's us strengthen the rest of the team with the money.

by WideWally Wed 29 Jun 2011, 11:29

So anyway ...................

.............. I googled "Jackie Mac and Fergus" & all these links came up about Celtic United in the mid 90s. I just wanted to find out if that old story was true or just an urban myth. And are there any videos of it online?

by WideWally Wed 29 Jun 2011, 11:49

I guess it must have been an urban myth. Skully would have known if it had been a true story & replied by now.

by skully Wed 29 Jun 2011, 11:54

Wally, I have no clue what you are talking about, ol' bean. scratch

by JKLever Wed 29 Jun 2011, 11:54

What you talkin about Willis?

Meanwhile, joke of the day....

England are up to 4th in the world rankings, one place ahead of Brazil

by WideWally Wed 29 Jun 2011, 11:59

skully wrote:Wally, I have no clue what you are talking about, ol' bean.

Many years ago there was supposed to be a video featuring Jackie Mac & her dog Fergus. The Hey Hey team often made subtle references to it. Some say it was true. Others say it was an urban myth.

by Brass Monkey Wed 29 Jun 2011, 12:16

I can find a video of Jackie Fergus and her dog Mac, if that helps?

by WideWally Wed 29 Jun 2011, 12:18

That'll do.

Thanks.

by WideWally Wed 29 Jun 2011, 12:22

And what is the story about Fergus McCann & Jackie McNamara?

by Chivalry Augustus Wed 29 Jun 2011, 16:01

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Augustus - he's just turned 18 FFS. "The season before last" when he missed some sitters he would have been 16 or 17. Sheesh. No one's saying he's Messi but he could be decent.

Hitting the ball in a straight line when in on goal is a pretty basic and under-rated skill - I think if you're paying £10m+ for someone you're entitled to expect him to score easy opportunities, especially when he's a striker. Wickham is just a sign of the way the English game is going, big lads rather than good lads. All the talented young English players are being released from 'big' clubs for being too small or under-developed. Dale Jennings is an example of this, released from Liverpool for being small but about to be bought by Bayern Munich to play under-study to Ribery.

by LeFromage Wed 29 Jun 2011, 17:57

From what I've seen of him, he's way more skilful than merely being a "big lad".

That said, on signing him for Sunderland, the first thing Steve Bruce mentioned was his height, so I guess it'll be hoof o'clock for the Mackems once more...

by PeterCS Wed 29 Jun 2011, 18:10

BRUCE: Big lad, puts himself about a bit, is a handful in the air, good with his head.

"On me head, lad".

by Lara Lara Laughs Wed 29 Jun 2011, 19:34

Chivalry Augustus wrote:
Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Augustus - he's just turned 18 FFS. "The season before last" when he missed some sitters he would have been 16 or 17. Sheesh. No one's saying he's Messi but he could be decent.

Hitting the ball in a straight line when in on goal is a pretty basic and under-rated skill - I think if you're paying £10m+ for someone you're entitled to expect him to score easy opportunities, especially when he's a striker. Wickham is just a sign of the way the English game is going, big lads rather than good lads. All the talented young English players are being released from 'big' clubs for being too small or under-developed. Dale Jennings is an example of this, released from Liverpool for being small but about to be bought by Bayern Munich to play under-study to Ribery.

Lots of striker have missed a sitter at some point, including some of the greats. It shouldn't really be a shock that a 16 year old missed once or twice.

by Lara Lara Laughs Sun 23 Oct 2011, 19:28

beamer wrote:Well, I guess it's the possession, style and volume of goals that has people saying they are the best ever. It's a case of judging them on a handful of matches against decent opposition though, as most of the games in their own league are a formality. It's not competitive football, it's exhibition stuff, there's only two league matches a season which really matter, it's just a rich man's SPL now. Bottom half of the EPL would piss on the equivalent teams in La Liga.

They have to win several Champions League titles to be considered the best ever I would say. But the way Spanish football has gone shows why we need to keep the collective TV deals rather than letting the big sides negotiate their own.

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:

"Barca are massively overrated" is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever read.

Closely followed by "The Spanish league is like the SPL".

3 teams have won the EPL in the last 10 years. 3 teams have won La Liga in the last 10 years. 3 teams have won Serie A in the last 10 years. United have won 12 of the last 20 EPLs. And "the bottom EPL clubs would beat the bottom of LL" is based on what exactly? A guess?

Fact is, Villareal, Valencia, Sevilla, Atletico are all good teams. The league is made to look bad by how excellent the top 2 are. People can't seem to accept that this Barca team are a great side and therefore are miles ahead of nearly everyone in their league. Bar United, they'd be probably be miles ahead of anyone in the premier league.

Btw, who else viciously hates JGK right now?

*raises hand*

F*ck me that was an effort.

Anyway, yay, someone's done the statistical research to prove me right.

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/oct/19/the-question-how-competitive-premier-league

On top of that, Getafe aren't doing too bad for a team that would be "p*ssed on" by the likes of Bolton and Swansea.

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