Re: The Football Thread - 2011/12

by Brass Monkey Thu 08 Mar 2012, 16:24

That's why I said 'Aye Laz' to start off with.

by Merlin Thu 08 Mar 2012, 16:26

Gotcha.

by Brass Monkey Thu 08 Mar 2012, 16:46

TBF, I've been know to say 'Aye' sarcastically, alot.

by Guest Thu 08 Mar 2012, 17:09

That was a weird exchange.

by Lara Lara Laughs Thu 08 Mar 2012, 18:04

Brass Monkey wrote:Aye Laz.... Napoli a one man team... one man team... hmmm....

Bruno Giordano?
Ciro Ferrara?
Alessandro Renica?
Giuseppe Bruscolotti?
Francesco Romano?

With Ottavio Bianchi as their manager?

Oh yeah, SHIT players. Whatta one man team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHIT PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!

And Careca and Zola too. Maradona's romanticised as much as Zizou. They're both ATGs without all the misty eyed bullsh*t around them. I've always been suspicious of how long Diego was juiced up for as well, given that drug testing wouldn't have been as rigorous or sophisticated as it is today. They say it was WC '94 only and brush it under the carpet but who knows.

Hi merlo, vilks, dan btw. Hope you're all well.

by Guest Thu 08 Mar 2012, 19:48

The 1994 World Cup was the first one I ever watched, can remember being only 9 and properly into it (largely due to a pretty cool teacher who taught us about it to help us with geography), stayed up untill god knows what time watching the final and wanted Brazil to win so that was cool.

Obviously I had no knowledge of Maradonna previous to this tournament so just saw this utter nutcase who everybody seemed very excited about. Thinking back I don't think I've enjoyed a world cup as much since then, probably due to England not being there and pissing me off. Plenty of memorable moments too, even though I was 9 I still have more memories of that World Cup than any other and despite being only 9 I appreciated how funny Diana Ross's miss during the opening ceremony was.

At this point I also thought that penalty shootouts were awesome and exciting. This stopped some time during 1996, despite still liking them less than a week before...

by Lara Lara Laughs Thu 08 Mar 2012, 20:17

I love penos. Complete agony to watch if your team is involved though.

In other news - come on Athletic!

They've got some quality players and a legend of a coach. Ander Herrera, Iker Muniain and Javi Martinez will be top players (and probs snapped up). Llorente already is.

by Guest Thu 08 Mar 2012, 20:28

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:I love penos. Complete agony to watch if your team is involved though.

In other news - come on Athletic!

They've got some quality players and a legend of a coach. Ander Herrera, Iker Muniain and Javi Martinez will be top players (and probs snapped up). Llorente already is.

Unless you are German. Not only have they not lost a shootout since 1976, I think they've only missed one penalty, either during a shootout or open play since then. Which is ridiculous, and baiscally means that England manage to miss more penalties in the space of ten minutes every time they step up than Germany have missed for 36 years.

by beamer Thu 08 Mar 2012, 20:35

On the subject of Maradona, obviously he did use drugs, but mostly recreational ones which would not have been performance enhancing, and in any case I've not yet heard of the drug that gives you fantastic skills with the ball at your feet...

Nobody is saying the players he had alongside him at Napoli or with Argentina were bad players, but they weren't world class players of their generation like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Villa etc.

by taipan Thu 08 Mar 2012, 20:37

Maradona was a cheating bastard. End of

by beamer Thu 08 Mar 2012, 20:41

Name a player who isn't... Messi has even scored a similar one with his hand I seem to remember!

The worst thing about Barcelona is their diving, the likes of Busquets could give Tom Daley a run for his money.

by Brass Monkey Thu 08 Mar 2012, 21:15

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:
And Careca and Zola too. Maradona's romanticised as much as Zizou. They're both ATGs without all the misty eyed bullsh*t around them. I've always been suspicious of how long Diego was juiced up for as well, given that drug testing wouldn't have been as rigorous or sophisticated as it is today. They say it was WC '94 only and brush it under the carpet but who knows.

Hi merlo, vilks, dan btw. Hope you're all well.

Careca and Zola weren't in the Scudetto winning side of '86, that's what I thought we were on about. But if we're on about 86-90 you could add Giovanni Francini and Massimo Crippa. Really good little period. Remember them winning the UEFA.

Hope you're well too Laz... good to see you on here.

by Henry Thu 08 Mar 2012, 21:18

Footballers are coached to cheat. Actually, on field cheating, along with racism, is one of the biggest problems facing football.

by beamer Thu 08 Mar 2012, 21:41

On the evidence of tonight, looks like the top Premier League clubs are going to have to do some serious spending this summer. It's like going back 15 years or so, seeing their European struggles this season against sides who are some way below the best of the best.

by Henry Thu 08 Mar 2012, 21:44

Europa League? City and Man U could hardly give less of a f*ck. The Premiership is now their main goal, and they know they'll qualify for the Champions League again next season on the basis of their guaranteed top four finishes.

by beamer Thu 08 Mar 2012, 21:48

The one trophy Ferguson has never won? Chance to show Europe they haven't gone away? Chance to put one over on their city rivals, for both sides?

If they didn't give a shit they would have played the kids and not risked their big players for the title race.

by taipan Thu 08 Mar 2012, 21:52

MU terrible tonight, but how in hell does the ref stop play because a boot has come off?

by Brass Monkey Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:01

Mehhhh... both teams are still right in the comps. I back them both to get through.

by Lara Lara Laughs Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:08

"Spainish league is like the SPL".

by Brass Monkey Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:10

It is the SPL.

by Lara Lara Laughs Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:13

beamer wrote:On the subject of Maradona, obviously he did use drugs, but mostly recreational ones which would not have been performance enhancing, and in any case I've not yet heard of the drug that gives you fantastic skills with the ball at your feet...

Nobody is saying the players he had alongside him at Napoli or with Argentina were bad players, but they weren't world class players of their generation like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Villa etc.

Thing is, Xavi and Iniesta are god like, all time great players, but Messi is still visibly head and shoulders above both them. Tells you something.

by Lara Lara Laughs Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:16

Brass Monkey wrote: It is the SPL.

No it's not. Not having this debate again though. It's on this thread somewhere.

by Guest Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:19

I could have sworn I made the point about there not being a performance enhancing drug that makes footballers more skillful before beamer, but it appears I haven't.

I think it's another one of those times where I thought it but didn't post it, but thought that I posted it.

by Henry Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:19

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:
beamer wrote:On the subject of Maradona, obviously he did use drugs, but mostly recreational ones which would not have been performance enhancing, and in any case I've not yet heard of the drug that gives you fantastic skills with the ball at your feet...

Nobody is saying the players he had alongside him at Napoli or with Argentina were bad players, but they weren't world class players of their generation like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Villa etc.

Thing is, Xavi and Iniesta are god like, all time great players, but Messi is still visibly head and shoulders above both them. Tells you something.

Messi is a fantastic player, but he needs to take Argentina to a World Cup victory to truly convince some people he's better than Maradona. He was pretty ordinary in the last World Cup. Went missing, really.

by Guest Thu 08 Mar 2012, 22:24

Henry wrote:
Lara Lara Laughs wrote:
beamer wrote:On the subject of Maradona, obviously he did use drugs, but mostly recreational ones which would not have been performance enhancing, and in any case I've not yet heard of the drug that gives you fantastic skills with the ball at your feet...

Nobody is saying the players he had alongside him at Napoli or with Argentina were bad players, but they weren't world class players of their generation like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Villa etc.

Thing is, Xavi and Iniesta are god like, all time great players, but Messi is still visibly head and shoulders above both them. Tells you something.

Messi is a fantastic player, but he needs to take Argentina to a World Cup victory to truly convince some people he's better than Maradona. He was pretty ordinary in the last World Cup. Went missing, really.

I think people forget he's only 24 sometimes. Most footballers enjoy their peak years in their late 20s. The fact he is even being mentioned alongside the likes of Maradonna at the age of 24 speaks volumes.

Really hope he stays injury free throughout his career.

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