Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (III)

[JGK]

BHP makes $22.5 billion last year while the steelworks and manufacturing industry is on its knees.

If only there was a way to get more money out of the miners who are pushing up the AUD which is causing the other industries to wither....

[Big Dog]

BHP makes $22.5 billion last year while the steelworks and manufacturing industry is on its knees.

If only there was a way to get more money out of the miners who are pushing up the AUD which is causing the other industries to wither....

Don't worry. When the carbon tax kicks in the aussie $ will be worth shyte.

[embee]

BHP makes $22.5 billion last year while the steelworks and manufacturing industry is on its knees.

If only there was a way to get more money out of the miners who are pushing up the AUD which is causing the other industries to wither....

The CFMEU agrees with you ....

but you seem to ignore that not all that profit relates to Australia and that BHP has already paid $7.309 Billion in tax on that profit ...$3.503 Billion in Australia

[JGK]

I'm not ignoring it.

[lardbucket]

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Craig Thomson FFS ...

and now even his Union has abandoned him.

[JGK]

"FFS" - the greatest TLS ITW

[Bradman]

BHP makes $22.5 billion last year while the steelworks and manufacturing industry is on its knees.

If only there was a way to get more money out of the miners who are pushing up the AUD which is causing the other industries to wither....

The carbon tax and a total restructuring of royalties and rentals would at least slow the boom down. It's getting pretty farking scary.

[horace]

BHP is surely the most craven miniing co around ...they should have been a bank or the NSW branch of the ALP

[skully]

PMSL (or should it just be ?) at both sides for all the current moaning about the "lowness and dirtiness" of the other side during this Craig Thomson affair.

Er, it's Politics, you clueless farkers.

[embee]

What's the numbers again?

If the Libs win the Thomson byelection (if there is one) would they still need Katter or Crook (or another) to form govt?

[skully]

They had 72-each. Brandt, Wilkie, Oakeshott and Windsor went with the pinkos, and Katter and Crook went with the Blues.

Libs would win outright (I assume) with 73-71. Or could the pinkos still add 4 and the Blues 2 to make it 75-all?? I wouldn't think so.

Zog, how does that work?

[skully]

And Fat Laurie is saying even if the Cops nail Thomson, it'll all take so long that the next election will be due anyway. Still, that's one sure Blue seat next time around.

[embee]

I dont think Katter and Crook committed either way

I cant wait to see the look on the MM's face when Bob takes 17 minutes to declare his hat is with Julia

[Leo]

Embee - it would be 75-75. They could not form Government without one of Oakeshott, Windsor and Wilkie joining them, and they would need both Katter and Crook to win a no-confidence motion (which could be blocked if Harry Jenkins walked out and forced the Lib deputy speaker to take the chair).

But a byelection remains unlikely IMO. A criminal conviction would take years, and a resignation would be an act of political betrayal on a monumental scale. Short run, I would guess the PM is probably more worried about losing Wilkie - or being knifed herself - than she is about losing Dobell.

[skully]

Katter and Crook's rhetoric indicated they were leaning towards the Blues but by then the Vulture had the 4 Indies/Greens she needed to form her minority Govt (with no mandate for a carbon tax until Bob Brown inserted the black mamba up her dinger as part of his sign-on fee for Brandt).

[embee]

Cheers Leo

[Zat]

They had 72-each. Brandt, Wilkie, Oakeshott and Windsor went with the pinkos, and Katter and Crook went with the Blues.

Libs would win outright (I assume) with 73-71. Or could the pinkos still add 4 and the Blues 2 to make it 75-all?? I wouldn't think so.

Zog, how does that work?

About as well as the calls for a Double Dissolution from the truckies.

In other words, it doesn't.

[skully]

No, I meant the 73-71 thing, in the event of Dobell falling to the Libs (I know it won't but I'm interested in the "rules"). You seem to have a handle on the rules of elections. I would've thought if the Libs had 73 seats to 71 then that's it, they form Govt.

Or a Coalition of Labor/Greens and Indies can be formed if they wish? Which would seem a heinous thing to do, and only done for individually selfish (on the part of the Indies) motives. They would basically be overturning the democratic decision of the Aus electorate i.e. they prefer (albeit slimly) one of the major parties over the other.

[Zat]

Strictly speaking, JG would stay as PM regardless of the by-election result. There'd need to be a vote on the floor of the house that showed she had lost the confIdence of a majority of members. I suspect that given Abbott's bull-at-a-gate negativity, and his talking down of the independents would cruel any chance of their support on such a motion. But if he managed that, the GG would (I think) then ask the Libs to form a government.

There's probably more to it that I haven't covered, but I've got better things to do right now than devote attention to which scum sucking leach is going to head up the place.

I still maintain the mad monk won't get to be PM.

[lardbucket]

good chance to get pokies banned for good

[Zat]

I like pokies. For the occasional few bucks.

Legislating them out of existence never works, they just go underground.

And legislating against stupidity is impossible. If people want to f*ck up their lives, let them.

[lardbucket]

There is the fact that (like cigarettes) they allow the government to tax the unemployed. So they're not all bad.

[skully]

Speaking of tax, was interested to hear today that the rich of France essentially volunteered to take a 3% tax increase (for those earning over $750,000 per annum. Many have suggested (including Warrne Buffet) that the Yanks should do the same.

What about Aus? Or do our rich hide their earnings too well, leaving the middle income earners like me and Zog to keep the country financially propped up?

And cheers for your take on the outcome of Dobell falling, Z.

[skully]

Gotta love Richo

"FORMER ALP powerbroker Graham Richardson says the Craig Thomson affair is damaging the Labor brand and has an "awful smell to it".

He said the next election would be “as bad or worse as NSW” if a circuit breaker wasn't found.

“If there was a way out and they could persuade him to sit on the crossbenches, I hope they find it and I hope they take it soon because this Labor brand can't take much more.” "

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It is widely known that the pinkos hate the way Richo writes about them in the press. His response "FFS, do something good for me to write and talk about".

[Bradman]

Strictly speaking, JG would stay as PM regardless of the by-election result. There'd need to be a vote on the floor of the house that showed she had lost the confIdence of a majority of members. I suspect that given Abbott's bull-at-a-gate negativity, and his talking down of the independents would cruel any chance of their support on such a motion. But if he managed that, the GG would (I think) then ask the Libs to form a government.
There's probably more to it that I haven't covered, but I've got better things to do right now than devote attention to which scum sucking leach is going to head up the place.

I still maintain the mad monk won't get to be PM.

Or she could save five minutes and call an immediate election. The hard to find reserve powers could come in handy.

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