Re: Australia v India, 1st Test, Melbourne, 26-30 December (II)

by Allan D Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:42

Oz only bowled out twice at the MCG for <100 - 98 in the 1st innings of the Ashes Test last year and 83 in the last innings against India in February 1981 when they required only 143 to win with Kapil Dev taking 5-28. With this result the Indians managed to level a 3-match series 1-1. This collapse, after Oz had led on 1st innings by 182, presaged events at Headingley 5 months later.

by Mick Sawyer Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:42

Zat wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:
horace wrote:would have been ideal to bring Christian on now...

horrie, is Christian as good as say, Watson with the ball? If not, he's not good enough.
As Watson won't bowl again for at least another month, my long=dead grandmother would be better than him with the ball at the moment.

OK, but I'm sick to feckin death of Christian being thought worthy of a place in the team. The comparison with the likes of Watson is a simple test of the required standard for the bowling skill of a (batting) allrounder.

by horace Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:50

Mick Sawyer wrote:
Zat wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:
horace wrote:would have been ideal to bring Christian on now...

horrie, is Christian as good as say, Watson with the ball? If not, he's not good enough.
As Watson won't bowl again for at least another month, my long=dead grandmother would be better than him with the ball at the moment.

OK, but I'm sick to feckin death of Christian being thought worthy of a place in the team. The comparison with the likes of Watson is a simple test of the required standard for the bowling skill of a (batting) allrounder.

hmmn...aside from the bowlers this is an ordinairy team when it comes to batting...pretty easy to be worth a place in that batting line up

time for Snicket to go....persist with Cowan and Marsh...recognise the GCS is a low rent version of Sehwag but keep in him as it is traditional for the Oz team to have at least one over rated spiv...Haddit must go

by JGK Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:51

Allan D wrote:Oz only bowled out twice at the MCG for <100 - 98 in the 1st innings of the Ashes Test last year and 83 in the last innings against India in February 1981 when they required only 143 to win with Kapil Dev taking 5-28. With this result the Indians managed to level a 3-match series 1-1. This collapse, after Oz had led on 1st innings by 182, presaged events at Headingley 5 months later.

That was the Sunny-spitting-the-dummy test too. And Dougie's last test.

by taipan Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:54

PM$L. Ponting stone dead on review. Hope he makes lit count. .

by Zat Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:57

That's one back for the good guys.

by JGK Wed 28 Dec 2011, 03:59

Another great advertisement for UDRS.

by The One Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:30

The One wrote:overall a good day for india though. we need a healthy lead but i just feel we are 2 wickets away from a collapse

by horace Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:34

whereas Oz is just one mad 2020 shot away from a collapse

by The One Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:35

india is screwed if the lead goes above 220-230. cant see them chasing too many in the last dig

by JGK Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:38

cant see them chasing too many in the last dig

With the Indian Nos 2,3,4 and 5 having about 45,000 test runs between them at about 53 I can see why you'd think that.

by Paul Keating Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:41

They doom monger like no other nation and then when an all-time Indian eleven thread comes up.

Sehwag, SRT and Dravid are automatics and Laxman has a case too.

Seriously they are either crapulent or great.

by lardbucket Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:46

Mick Sawyer wrote:
skully wrote:1st Test Michelle for Milf!!! Well done, him.

[lardy mutters what an arseclown MS is]

Any reasonable judge would acknowledge that I was absolutely correct. If you bend it and attack the poles you will be successful. Hilf managed that, by and large this morning. The ball he took Dravid with is the best I can remember from him. Great length, tailed in and took the top of off. More of that thanks Hilf. Well bowled him.

It appears that we finally have a bowling coach that knows a bit about bowling. The change in the length being bowled by the Australian quicks is astonishing.

Mick - he bowled the same stuff yesterday as he did today ... Tendulkar wasn't in the way today.

You're not an arseclown, but you're being perverse.

by Big Dog Wed 28 Dec 2011, 04:58

I thought Skully was referring to Mitchell Starc Laughing

by Mick Sawyer Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:04

lardbucket wrote:
Mick Sawyer wrote:
skully wrote:1st Test Michelle for Milf!!! Well done, him.

[lardy mutters what an arseclown MS is]

Any reasonable judge would acknowledge that I was absolutely correct. If you bend it and attack the poles you will be successful. Hilf managed that, by and large this morning. The ball he took Dravid with is the best I can remember from him. Great length, tailed in and took the top of off. More of that thanks Hilf. Well bowled him.

It appears that we finally have a bowling coach that knows a bit about bowling. The change in the length being bowled by the Australian quicks is astonishing.

Mick - he bowled the same stuff yesterday as he did today ... Tendulkar wasn't in the way today.

You're not an arseclown, but you're being perverse.

My opinion that Pattinson was a class above the other two (posted prior to Siddles final spell) was based upon what I heard on radio through a long drive. There was no suggestion that Hilf was building and maintaining pressure, nor that he was moving the ball both ways, as you suggest. I went through the ball by ball descriptions as you demanded and saw nothing that changed my mind. The wicket ball yesterday was a half tracker, one that Alistair Cook would have clipped to the fence or allowed through. I read 5 or 6 newpaper reports this morning and there was praise for Pattinson and Siddle.

You say he bowled the same stuff yesterday; cool!

I liked what I saw today and not because of the number of wickets he took. What he bowled (regardless of who was holding the bat) was Test class.

by furriner Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:08

Paul Keating wrote:They doom monger like no other nation ...............,,.

Assuming I understood what you said, you should listen to your very own Aussie fans on this forum then.

by Paul Keating Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:12

Furri

Your fans downplay the ability of your big four to chase down 250.

But they are good enough to be all time greats?

by Paul Keating Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:12

But then go on to say they are all tiem greats.

by horace Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:14

of our top 7 only Ponting is an atg ....and his powers have gone.

by furriner Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:28

Paul Keating wrote:Furri

Your fans downplay the ability of your big four to chase down 250.

But they are good enough to be all time greats?

How is that different from Australian fans on this forum then? Do you remember the woofs and reverse woofs through all the Ashes series, recently and back in the day?

I think you're making too much of something that is common to all fans.

by taipan Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:39

Paul Keating wrote:Furri

Your fans downplay the ability of your big four to chase down 250.

But they are good enough to be all time greats?

Are they suggesting that SRT is incapable of playing a match winning innings?

by Zat Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:40

Furrri, I think any Aussie doom-mongering during the last Ashes series was more than justified...

by Nath Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:47

crap!

by The One Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:47

Paul Keating wrote:Furri

Your fans downplay the ability of your big four to chase down 250.

But they are good enough to be all time greats?

highest successful chase at the mcg in the last 50 years is around 197. any chase is possible. above 250 does not seem probable, especially after our 1st innings effort

by Zat Wed 28 Dec 2011, 05:55

South Africa managed 1/183 a couple of years back in the fourth innings at the MCG.

Although that was the match where Ponting captained exceptionally cluelessly, Lee was injured, and there was other assorted stupidity and or crapulence IIRC.

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