Trivia & Quizzia 2013 (an occasional series, by whoever wishes)

(Reassuring to note, in passing, that the 'Christine Keeler' pose preceded THAT image of the current England crop that was posted by Ange - by over a century at that.

But it seems they didn't use baby high chairs in those days, ...)

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1. Who is this? (Be precise if you can.)
2. What, in the name of all that's good, is that ridiculous cap he's wearing?



That'llav ter do f'now.

merlo's gran and her tea cosy

Is it Duleep?

No idea about the hat.

Right, I'm shit at facial recognition. The last one looks like a white Duleep. But I think half the people look like a white Duleep.

PeterCS wrote:γ

1. Identify the two Sussex men
2. Who is the unlikely-named captain?

One looks like Ranji. Think the player on the second row far right is CB Fry. He looks similar.

The guy sitting on the grass to the right looks like a woman.
Any connection to women's cricket here?

Relating to the batsman at the top of this page ...

embee wrote:merlo's gran and her tea cosy

*Pats Marty on head*

JGK wrote:Is it Duleep?

No idea about the hat.

Wrong one.

Now, about the hat: It is significant. On another head, it was the start of the trouble in Oz.

tricycle wrote:Right, I'm shit at facial recognition. The last one looks like a white Duleep. But I think half the people look like a white Duleep.

Naw! A bit pale, but definitely not THAT white!  

And if your second point is true, that must cause you an whole lot of grief in your love life.  


If you need another clue (there are three above), the motley cap is a sign of a select membership.

γ [was ...]

1. Identify the two Sussex men
2. Who is the unlikely-named captain?

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tricycle wrote:...
One looks like Ranji. Think the player on the second row far right is CB Fry. He looks similar.

Merlin wrote:The guy sitting on the grass to the right looks like a woman.
Any connection to women's cricket here?

Trike: √, √ - well spotted.

Which leaves the captain to be deduced/guessed/found.

Merls: What disrespect once again, for a famous/notorious legend of the game, and one of your own to boot!

Mind you, he was probably the daddy of another of your own, whom you seem to loathe as a shifty manipulator, so perhaps you're just being consistent.

Further clue: fairly fruity.

btw: The other guy (or rather, gent) on the grass is also famous.

Note the square set jaw.

He was a pal of Fry's, but West Country.

Stanley Jackson? Guessing purely because I think the captain sits in the centre and that tash looks too well maintained for Ranji's secretary, Archie MacLaren.

PeterCS wrote:

tricycle wrote:Right, I'm shit at facial recognition. The last one looks like a white Duleep. But I think half the people look like a white Duleep.

Naw! A bit pale, but definitely not THAT white!  

And if your second point is true, that must cause you an whole lot of grief in your love life.  

That explains a bit.... my second guess was a tanned Archie Jackson, which is what almost all the other half look like. The cap a weird looking MCC cap?

Blimey, I don't think Archie ever had features that finely chiselled.

No, JGK was sort of "warm", and exactly the right era, though the pictured guy was slightly younger. (EDIT: just checked - only 5 years, in fact.)

Come on, he's an important figure for your country!!


Now about that cap again:

Not MCC. More academic. More multicoloured, clownish.

TQJ and his Harlequin aka Merlo's gran

The Quaint Jahangir???

Harlequin is definitely correct, anyway.

A cap worn by Oxford (University) Blues.



Jardine played the first of his twenty-two test matches, against the West Indians, in 1928 and toured Australia in 1928–9. He played a sound part in England's 4–1 victory over Australia and had a tour average of 64.88. At Adelaide he and W. R. Hammond set a record of 262 for an England third-wicket stand against Australia, which remains unbeaten. On personal grounds, however, the tour proved to be the groundstone of his later troubles. His Harlequin cap—symbol of class and imperialism to a sensitive society—brought a fierce response by what he himself called ‘partial and unintelligent barracking’ (Chapman and others, 215). Wisden's comment that to Australian crowds barracking ‘was part of their day's enjoyment’ (Wisden, 1930, 659) was a view that Jardine never came to appreciate. It had been unfortunate that he had fielded on the boundary and been vulnerable to the crowds.

http://www.oxforddnb.com/templates/article.jsp?articleid=34158&back=

Aaaaah . . . .Dougie . . . dear ol' highly impressive and extremely important Dougie . . .

How come I missed that?!
Bizarre!

But it's not him!!

He wore the same cap. (Same design cap, perhaps I should add.)

It's a contemporary of his at Oxford.

Pataudi?

Yes indeed. TO be exact Iftikhar Ali Khan Pataudi, the older Nawab.

Hence my paperchase of clues, which all fell on stony ground!  (see highlighted bits below)

Pataudi Snr was also on the Bodyline tour, though he didn't last long in the Tests. And though also an Oxford blue, he didn't exhibit the fact of his exclusive status.

And (to put it mildly) he didn't see eye-to-eye with his captain - who famously called him a "conscientious objector" when he baulked at joining the "legtrap squad" in the First Test. An example of Jardine's ultra-dry humour admittedly, this nevertheless indicates just how wedded "DRJ" was to the idea of the Ashes as warfare.

Despite his aristocratic status, the Indian was the direct reverse of Jardine in what would now be called "PR skills". When asked by one of the Test crowds what they should call his Lordship, he offered: "Just call me Pat!"

And when some wag in the crowd yelled out: "Hey Gandhi!! Where's your donkey?!" - which might have been an awkward moment - the Nawab retorted: "AHHH - THERE you are!! I've been looking for you all morning!!"

You can imagine how he went down with the Aussie crowds - in complete contrast to his glacial, smouldering captain.

And how popular he was with that same captain.

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PeterCS wrote:Relating to the batsman at the top of this page ...

embee wrote:merlo's gran and her tea cosy

*Pats Marty on head*

JGK wrote:Is it Duleep?

No idea about the hat.

Wrong one.

Now, about the hat: It is significant. On another head, it was the start of the trouble in Oz.

tricycle wrote:Right, I'm shit at facial recognition. The last one looks like a white Duleep. But I think half the people look like a white Duleep.

Naw! A bit pale, but definitely not THAT white!  

And if your second point is true, that must cause you an whole lot of grief in your love life.  


If you need another clue (there are three above), the motley cap is a sign of a select membership.

Retrospective apols to Trike - I didn't see the (now bolded) first bit of this reply of yours - I noticed only the (now greyed) later bit.

So I'll now add a belated reply (at the end) ....

tricycle wrote:Stanley Jackson? Guessing purely because I think the captain sits in the centre and that tash looks too well maintained for Ranji's secretary, Archie MacLaren.

PeterCS wrote:

tricycle wrote:Right, I'm shit at facial recognition. The last one looks like a white Duleep. But I think half the people look like a white Duleep.

Naw! A bit pale, but definitely not THAT white!  

And if your second point is true, that must cause you an whole lot of grief in your love life.  

That explains a bit.... my second guess was a tanned Archie Jackson, which is what almost all the other half look like. The cap a weird looking MCC cap?

The skipper is indeed the mustachioed stranger in the middle. He does have a faint, forbidding resemblance to the great Stan - but it's not him. And his features are a bit too dark and heavy for AC MacLaren, too.

No, I said he had an improbable name - which FS Jackson and AC MacLaren hardly are. It's one of those names you couldn't make up - like http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/26415.html

A further clue is Scottish roots.

I must admit he's not half as famous as those other two you guessed at - and the match probably needs hunting down if he is to be identified. But he DID play 265 FC matches, and win 8 England caps ....!

Bumpup of this:

PeterCS wrote:α

This one needs an exact answer. - Before which match was this cartoon drawn?

And bump also to this. (It is connected to the team ^ with Ranji & Fry.)

PeterCS wrote:β

1. Name the two Yorkshire players (hint: caps)
2. And the (terrific) Lancastrian (same hint)
3. Which of the 12 is the odd man out?

Maybe Gregor MacGregor?

It is indeed Gregor MacGregor!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/16862.html

I'm not sure how he got the captaincy - but these Gentlemen's teams were very prone to caprice and prerogatives, I suppose ...

So we have established it was a Gentlemen v Players match? Possibly 1901?

That's it.

Mind you, in those days there were often 2 or 3 a year. A big domestic event.

OK.
So was Tyldesley the Lancy?
And Hirst & Rhodes the Yorkies?
And Carpenter the odd chap who wouldn't join in with their silly games post-match?