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Post by skully Sat 01 Jun 2013, 04:08

1 down, 2 to go.
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Post by LeFromage Sat 01 Jun 2013, 07:44

Weather set fair down here, I believe.

Should be a good game. For NZ.

England will try and negative their way to another fun sucking victory, but their combination of piemen and sloths won't cut it in these parts.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 01 Jun 2013, 10:01

I predict further mediocrity, laced with some smarmy arrogance and an incredible lack of self-awareness.
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Post by LeFromage Sat 01 Jun 2013, 10:20

But all within a lovely setting.

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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 01 Jun 2013, 10:22

A bit like Auschwitz
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Post by skully Sat 01 Jun 2013, 10:31

What's an Ageas Bowl? Leg spin?
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Post by Brass Monkey Sat 01 Jun 2013, 10:40

Quick recap on the S/Rs -

66.66, 69.23, 69.81, 75, 66.66, 56, 67.92

Jeez, as Dello says, that's 1970's.
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Post by beamer Sat 01 Jun 2013, 11:13

Obviously an assumption based on the Test that anything over 200 would be enough on that pitch. The conditions, and bowling attack we had to defend it, made sure that didn't stack up.

With this team we will win matches on 200 or 220 pitches, which will win plenty of series in English conditions. Post a steady total and then Jimmy takes out the top order in swinging conditions, or bowl the opposition out cheaply with little pressure on the batsmen to score quickly in a chase. We certainly won't win games on 300 pitches though, and will usually lose them heavily.

Also I think in one-day cricket they have a duty to entertain. Without the subtleties and twists and turns of Test cricket, limited overs needs explosive action. People won't pay £60 a time to see Trott blocking out maidens and Bell playing his classy drives for no run.

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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Jun 2013, 13:29

Nice stylistic point: the way beamer goes from 'we' to 'they' in his final paragraph.

A marker of alienation!
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Post by beamer Sat 01 Jun 2013, 14:00

Well, "we" means England as a cricketing nation, team and supporters. Whereas the last paragraph can clearly only refer to the players themselves, the supporters can't provide the entertainment, unless you count streakers, beer snakes and Mexican waves!

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Post by furriner Sat 01 Jun 2013, 16:14

Every time I see, or hear of, England playing an ODI I get so excited I could wank all day long. And half the night if it's a day-night game.

There's millions of us out there. Join us.

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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Jun 2013, 17:10

Why? Are you falling apart?
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Post by LeFromage Sat 01 Jun 2013, 17:40

beamer wrote:
Also I think in one-day cricket they have a duty to entertain. Without the subtleties and twists and turns of Test cricket, limited overs needs explosive action. People won't pay £60 a time to see Trott blocking out maidens and Bell playing his classy drives for no run.

You're telling me. It's surely another nail in the coffin of ODIs, seeing England rock up to block the shit out of the first 30 overs before having a brief dart towards the end of the innings, which appears to be their entire plan.

They could've scored 227 a/o in 25 overs yesterday - at least the ride would've been quite enjoyable.

Instead they just drag out the grim narrative to it's tediously predictable conclusion.

They're monsters. Won't someone think of the children? Not in a Jimmy Savile way - watching England, they've been through enough.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Jun 2013, 17:42

it's tediously predictable?
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Jun 2013, 17:43

England - drumming up support for Test cricket in one-day venues everywhere.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Jun 2013, 17:44

I do like the Ageas Bowl.


Sounds like classical constipation gone wrong.
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Post by LeFromage Sat 01 Jun 2013, 18:34

Because the only way to play ODIs in England is to block for 30 overs and then desperately try and accelerate at the end to get to 260-270...

Sri Lanka 333/3 (6.66 rpo) lost to India 337/5 (6.8 rpo) in Birmingham today.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 01 Jun 2013, 18:47

See? Sri Lanka try an unEnglish tactic, and where does it get them?
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Post by beamer Sat 01 Jun 2013, 19:57

Dello wrote:Because the only way to play ODIs in England is to block for 30 overs and then desperately try and accelerate at the end to get to 260-270...

Sri Lanka 333/3 (6.66 rpo) lost to India 337/5 (6.8 rpo) in Birmingham today.
Didn't even watch the second half, assumed a demoralised India would fold to around 100 short!

These warm-ups are not even JAMODIs though, allowing teams to use more than 11 players, it really is a waste of time. Imagine scoring a century in one of these and it counts for fark all in terms of career records. Either have proper "official" games or stay in the nets.

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Post by LeFromage Sun 02 Jun 2013, 00:21

Oh wait, what's that? Australia scored at 6.66 per over, easily chasing down the Windies 260 with 11 overs to spare?

Batting in England? (Wales, actually...)

Can't be done. Cannot be done.
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Post by PeterCS Sun 02 Jun 2013, 00:34

Jolly bad form. Deport the cads, I say.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sun 02 Jun 2013, 09:10

"Everything's ok" - I'm paraphrasing Cricket Writers On TV.

Wow. I feel better now.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sun 02 Jun 2013, 10:03

"Compton must find his A-game ahead of Ashes... otherwise Bell could step in to open"


Riiigghhhhttt.
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Post by Brass Monkey Sun 02 Jun 2013, 10:04

"Bell has been getting out softly again and just might be in need of a new challenge at 31."


Rrrriiiiigggghhhhtttttio.

Paul Newman: genius.

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Post by Henry Sun 02 Jun 2013, 10:12

Bell just needs a kick up the backside every three years, it seems (ie, getting dropped)
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