Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XI)

[G.Wood]

Do you really think you will get that much?

[Henry]

 

[JGK]

30 Nov Last possible date for Fed Election

33 days notice required

G20 5&6 Sep

plenty of time for KRudd to poonce about

When would Parliament start again if the election is delayed?

[embee]

2013 APH calendar

20 August

[JGK]

Hmmm... Looks like Parliament is heading back then.

So much for all the valedictory speeches. I wonder if Gillard will now give one?

[skully]

Who?

[Bradman]

It will probably come if the polls take another dip though.  Closely followed by a promise to torpedo the boats before they get here (he already stuffed up the children overboard ruse)

That seems to be where Abbott and Morrison are going with it given their announcement today.

Typical pinko waste to use a torpedo when a few well placed shots from a cannon will be enough to sink most SIEVs

There's an environmental problem with sinking them. Most of the wood is diseased. That's why we burn (at vast expense) FFVs.

[skully]

So, my Pink comrades, has Krudd erred in not going early? Wireless reports indicate that he has resisted his advisers and that he wants to string it out. Talk is back to late Sept or beyond.

Anyone going to Craig Thomson's $3000-a for-head fund raiser tonight?

Fixed.

PMSL

"A fundraiser to help pay the legal bills of federal independent MP Craig Thomson attracted few supporters last night.

Thomson had high hopes for the fundraiser, which was held in the celebrity lounge of the City Tattersalls Club in Sydney.

The venue had room for 200 guests, but fewer than 30 people attended."

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I wonder how sheepish they felt? And I wonder if they all had the surname of Thomson?

Couldn't happen to a nicer grub of a hooman bean.

[horace]

Sophie Mirabella's fund raiser was however well attended by half the funeral industry

Clive Palmer's fund raiser was huge and attracted a large crowd of dinosaurs....tho ljh did not attend (he was having his eyebrows steam cleaned)

Gillards last fund raiser as a Fed MP was a rollicking success and raised enough money for her one way bus fare back to Adelaide...it is understood that in a surprise career move she is opening a theme park in Snowtown and has invited several ex's to attend .....from pork barrells to barrells of a different kind

[skully]

Did you enrol in the Vikas School of Stand Up?

[horace]

now S that was downright mean:D ...akin to me alleging your approach to stats is the same as Karti's

[Big Dog]

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[Hass]

So Kevin has put up the tax on cigarettes again.

Before today the total tax on a packet of cigarettes was effectively 200% - but I guess that wasn't high enough.

I'm a non-smoker, but this is a case of picking on an easy target.

[lardbucket]

Finally a really good policy.

[skully]

horrie will be mortified.

[lardbucket]

he will gasp with horror

[Big Dog]

So Kevin has put up the tax on cigarettes again.

Before today the total tax on a packet of cigarettes was effectively 200% - but I guess that wasn't high enough.

I'm a non-smoker, but this is a case of picking on an easy target.

 
You are right Hass. They know they can get away with it because they know the anti-smoking zealots will shout down anyone with the temerity to protest. I haven't had a gasper for 10 years but i still get pee'd off at the hypocritical crap the Government go on with about raising the tax to induce people to quit when we all know its just another blatant money grab.

[skully]

So I see Krudd is importing 3 Seppo spin doctors to help him in the soon-to-be-announced Feral Erection. I wonder if they will have more insight into the psyche of the Aus punters than the Vulture's import McTernan did?

And while on the Vulture, I see the stoopid deluded bint reckons she would've got a fairer go as PM if she'd been Aboriginal. FFS woman, you still don't get it??? You were farkin hopeless and had no clue about the will of the people!!! FMD and boo-farkin-hoo!!

[baggygreen]

Of course it's a money grab.

Those smokers wanting hospital beds at the end of their rope aint going to pay for themselves.

[embee]

With the pinkos ability to farque things up the tax grab will actually stop people smoking and they wont get any revenue from it

[lardbucket]

If people stop smoking it will save the government money. They should double the taxes again!

The main reason governments are finally moving sensibly on smoking is the improved outcomes of ischaemic heart disease. It used to be that governments could rake in tax from heavy smoking blue-collar workers, the unemployed, and bogans generally who then promptly died in their thousands of heart attacks (a quick cheap death) before they needed pensions from the governments that had collected those taxes. With the improved treatment of IHD this no longer happens ... and these smoking folk now survive well past pension age, to eventually die lingering slow expensive deaths of emphysema, with multiple admissions over years and years beforehand. The taxes collected from these punters in no way covers their later health expenses.

The economists have in recent years worked out that cigarette tax revenues have become totally insufficient to cover the health costs of smoking, and it is for this reason that tobacco taxes have been raised to cover the recalcitrants that continue to smoke themselves to ill health.

[Hass]

So, should the government be introducing a no-exercise tax?

Anyone who fails to exercise a certain amount each day will have a certain percentage added to their income tax. This will rise incrementally the less exercise someone does. All citizens will have to log their exercise records with an ATO-approved health practitioner. Both individuals and health officials will be audited on a targeted and random basis. Failure to complete a beep test to the standard reported in an individual's log could result in punitive fines or jail.

After all, people who don't exercise end up costing the government billions...

[embee]

If people stop smoking it will save the government money. They should double the taxes again!

The main reason governments are finally moving sensibly on smoking is the improved outcomes of ischaemic heart disease. It used to be that governments could rake in tax from heavy smoking blue-collar workers, the unemployed, and bogans generally who then promptly died in their thousands of heart attacks (a quick cheap death) before they needed pensions from the governments that had collected those taxes. With the improved treatment of IHD this no longer happens ... and these smoking folk now survive well past pension age, to eventually die lingering slow expensive deaths of emphysema, with multiple admissions over years and years beforehand. The taxes collected from these punters in no way covers their later health expenses.

The economists have in recent years worked out that cigarette tax revenues have become totally insufficient to cover the health costs of smoking, and it is for this reason that tobacco taxes have been raised to cover the recalcitrants that continue to smoke themselves to ill health.

The money saved on health care is well after the current budget (and forward estimates) which is where KRudd and CBowen want to show how clever they are

They couldnt give a flying ****** about smokers health

[G.Wood]

I thought they would care. As smoking is not the wisest pastime you would have to think that most smokers are pinko voters.

[embee]

As if being dead has ever stopped a pinko from voting ...

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