Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XI)

[skully]

Latest NewsPoll at 54-46 to Good Guys, with Pinko Primary vote down to 34%.

Now the Pinkos have rolled out their massive "If Abbott wins, it's your loss" scare campaign. Good luck with that. The whinging housewife was a massive failure.

[Big Dog]

Saw an article today that revealed that the Government is still sending out stimulus cheques even though the GFC ended four years ago. Despite the budget being $30 billion in the red, 6000 $900 cheques have been sent out since January, including to overseas backpackers, some of whom left the country over four years ago.

[lardbucket]

No surprises there.

Some of the architects of the stimulus package are now admitting that it had nothing or very little to do with Australia's 'survival' of the GFC, despite Kev repeatedly claiming that it shows him to be the Messiah ... they now concede that we survived the GFC principally because of a) the Chinese (the 'ratfarkers') ramping up their demand for our commodities, b) the rapid drop in interest rates, and c) the strength of our banks, compared with those overseas. There was something else about the dollar also saving us from the GFC in the article I saw, but that did not seem to make much sense to me. These financial analysts felt that the stimulus package had helped a little, but that the government could have got away with one about a third as big, resulting in lower deficits in the subsequent years, and there is of course the question of how badly the stimulus spending was directed, and the poor if not absent administration of that spend.

[skully]

Saw an article today that revealed that the Government is still sending out stimulus cheques even though the GFC ended four years ago. Despite the budget being $30 billion in the red, 6000 $900 cheques have been sent out since January, including to overseas backpackers, some of whom left the country over four years ago.

Yeah, this story is getting a healthy run on talkback this morning.

[skully]

No surprises there.

Some of the architects of the stimulus package are now admitting that it had nothing or very little to do with Australia's 'survival' of the GFC, despite Kev repeatedly claiming that it shows him to be the Messiah ... they now concede that we survived the GFC principally because of a) the Chinese (the 'ratfarkers') ramping up their demand for our commodities, b) the rapid drop in interest rates, and c) the strength of our banks, compared with those overseas. There was something else about the dollar also saving us from the GFC in the article I saw, but that did not seem to make much sense to me. These financial analysts felt that the stimulus package had helped a little, but that the government could have got away with one about a third as big, resulting in lower deficits in the subsequent years, and there is of course the question of how badly the stimulus spending was directed, and the poor if not absent administration of that spend.

I await MrK's review of this post.  

[Paul Keating]

So no mention of the numerous articles from Australian and international experts who said the stimulus package is a success?

Nor any mention that the Coalition said their stimulus package would not have been much less than the ALP's?

[skully]

Or Ponts' review.  

[skully]

Like a chook with its head cut off

"KEVIN Rudd is running like a man who knows he isn't hitting his target - and the harder he runs, the worse his aim gets.

The third week of the election campaign starts with a devastating poll, saying not only is Labor losing but the Prime Minister, the guy drafted at five minutes to midnight to save the party from from catastrophe, is a drag on the government's support.
...
Rudd's return - the first kiss memory with the old boyfriend/girlfriend - spiked Labor's support by between 6 and 9 points, putting the government in a very competitive position.

This good times recollection didn't last - as any twice bitten lover will tell you, it seldom does.
...
Rudd's only answer to his strategic and political problem is go negative.

He has cranked up his anti-Abbott message with ads targeted to cities and regions along the eastern seaboard.

It doesn't sit well with his "let's end the negativity" pitch six weeks ago.

Someone in Labor should go back and read the focus group reports from those days, which enthusiastically greeted Rudd's positive message.

You can't backflip on what worked six weeks ago and not expect the public to shake its collective head.

Rudd desperately needs a positive strategic message and a media plan that is coherent and grounded."

-------------------------------------------------

Well played, Kevy, well played. Now he puts the icing on the cake by reverting to full-blown Krudd attack dog and playing the man viciously and spitefully.

Methinks the punters have well and truly pegged you as the hateful little bullshit artist waste-of-space that you are, Kevy.

[skully]

Just 18 days for Krudd to turn the current abysmal (for the Pinkos) trend around. And he's gone attack dog as his answer.

It appears leopards can't change their spots.

[Big Dog]

A Groucho Marx quote sums up Rudd beautifully;
"I stand by my principals....and if you don't like them, i have others"

[skully]

The spectre of that vile angry little Scottish grub John McTernan still hangs over the Pinkos - to their detriment.

[JGK]

No surprises there.

Some of the architects of the stimulus package are now admitting that it had nothing or very little to do with Australia's 'survival' of the GFC, despite Kev repeatedly claiming that it shows him to be the Messiah ... they now concede that we survived the GFC principally because of a) the Chinese (the 'ratfarkers') ramping up their demand for our commodities, b) the rapid drop in interest rates, and c) the strength of our banks, compared with those overseas. There was something else about the dollar also saving us from the GFC in the article I saw, but that did not seem to make much sense to me. These financial analysts felt that the stimulus package had helped a little, but that the government could have got away with one about a third as big, resulting in lower deficits in the subsequent years, and there is of course the question of how badly the stimulus spending was directed, and the poor if not absent administration of that spend.

I await MrK's review of this post.  

All very easy in hindsight and ignores the " confidence" element of the stimulus.

[embee]

Bowen vs Hockey

All attack ...no defence

we are so screwed

[embee]

We made the federal election ...

The Liberal candidate at the centre of a controversy over offensive comments on a web forum has quit.
Kevin Fromage's name will still appear on the ballot paper as the Liberal candidate because nominations closed last week and early voting started on Tuesday, but he is considered unlikely to win Charlton.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott had signalled he would consider Mr Fromage's future as the candidate for the NSW Labor-held seat after he came under fire for running a cricket enthusiasts' website that included racism and offensive comments about women.

Labor demanded Mr Abbott dump Mr Fromage as his candidate for former minister Greg Combet’s seat of Charlton over the "Flaming Bails" web forum.
The forum, which is still going as slowly as ever since the criticism broke, featured a general discussion section with the banner: "Talk about anything you want - no censorship, no stress!"
According to a report in the Daily Telegraph, the forum included jokes calling the Pope a paedophile, referring to women making love on pool tables, Blumpies , Angry Dragons and "Tit banter".
In a statement issued late on Tuesday, Mr Fromage said it had been decided for him not to run as the Liberal candidate for Charlton.
"I understand that while my name will still appear on the ballot paper, my campaign is over," he said.
"I dont regret the posts made on my website and some pinko stooge qunt decided that it was not appropriate to continue as the party's candidate."
NSW Liberal Party state director Mark Neeham said the party had accepted Mr Fromage’s resignation.
"Consequently the party will not be represented in Charlton at the election," Mr Neeham said.
An Australian Electoral Commission spokesman said electoral laws required that after nominations closed and the ballot paper order was drawn, "they are the ballot papers that are used for voting; no changes are made".
The Liberal party disendorsed Pauline Hanson for the Queensland seat of Oxley in 1996, but the ballot papers had already been printed and she was elected with the party next to her name. The dumping meant she entered Parliament as an independent.
Labor currently holds the NSW seat of Charlton on a 12.7 per cent margin and Pat Conroy is running for the ALP. Mr Conroy was the deputy chief-of-staff to the retiring MP, former climate-change minister Greg Combet.
Liberal sources said Mr Fromage was extremely unlikely to win the seat despite his resignation - especially after the web forum controversy and with Mr Fromage ceasing campaigning.
At an earlier media event, Mr Abbott said he would be briefed on the issue, but noted Mr Fromage had apologised for the comments.
"He’s done the wrong thing. To his credit he’s pulled down the site. He has abjectly and quite properly apologised but, yep, he’s done the wrong thing," he said.
Mr Abbott had left the door open to potentially dumping Mr Fromage as a candidate, saying he would review further information about the issue later on Tuesday.
"I’m going to receive a further briefing on this later today," Mr Abbott said.
In a statement, the Labor campaign said Mr Froamge’s website "included offensive references about incest, domestic violence, racism and child abuse" and "jokes about having sex with strippers".
"Mr Abbott has no option but to follow the lead of former prime minister John Howard.
"Following the close of nominations in the 1996 election Mr Howard publicly ’disendorsed’ the then Liberal candidate for Oxley Pauline Hanson after derogatory comments she had made," a Labor statement said.
"Even though she would still appear on the ballot as a Liberal on polling day, Mr Howard said Ms Hanson would never be welcome in the Coalition party room."
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd had called on Mr Abbott to dump Mr Fromage as a candidate, although he initially fumbled his lines.
Mr Rudd said Mr Abbott should "show some leadership and man up" and remove the candidates for Dobell and McMahon (where Liberal candidate Ray King has come under fire over his appearance before the Wood Royal Commission).
The Prime Minister later admitted he meant to refer to Charlton and McMahon.


Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/liberal-candidate-kevin-fromage-stands-down-over-offensive-website-20130820-2s8fd.html#ixzz2cV7FezKP

[embee]

The Greens just had an ad on Wozzie tv asking us to vote for SHY in the Sozzie senate

Stupid farken watermelons

[horace]

the greens are complete zimheads....Lenin would describe them as he did other social democrats of his time as radishes - red on the outside and white on the inside (white=csarists)

[JGK]

Yet the Greens are going to ensure that Abbott's God awful parental leave plan will see the light of day and entrench the sense of middle class entitlement for eternity.

[horace]

as I said = radishes

[taipan]

Is Trev really TIM SOUTPHOMMASANE?

[skully]

Yet the Greens are going to ensure that Abbott's God awful parental leave plan will see the light of day and entrench the sense of middle class entitlement for eternity.

Have to agree with this sentiment. I reckon Abbott formulated this policy years back as demonstration that he is chick-friendly, and has stubbornly stuck to it to this day.

[Paul Keating]

It's too late now. But he should have scrapped it when he was riding high in the polls during gillard's reign. It would have made a tiny dint in his ratings.

Even the conservatives like the business council of Australia, the resource sector and many of Abbott's colleagues think it is a dud policy.

[embee]

The idea behind the Abbott PPL is good ....but on quick examination you can see major flaws and problems ...and is way too expensive ...

So it's no wonder the Greens love it ...and surprising the ALpinkos havent already enacted it

[horace]

typical god botherer policy from the MM

[JGK]

The idea behind the Abbott PPL is good ....but on quick examination you can see major flaws and problems ...and is way too expensive ...

So it's no wonder the Greens love it ...and surprising the ALpinkos havent already enacted it  

I know of a couple of self employed lasses of child bearing age who have recently put themselves on very large salaries with a view to get up the duff early next year.

[skully]

You "know" them?  

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