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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XI)
Speaking of mice-sized brains.horace wrote:enjoyed that and the photo of the filth MM compaing his brain with that of a mouse a day or two ago...pox on them all
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FFs this would be typical of my luck this year.
One of the few talented Tories and the Oxley Moron is a chance of knocking him out.
One of the few talented Tories and the Oxley Moron is a chance of knocking him out.
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Er, is Sinodinos a personal friend?
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Put your numbers in and see if you can save Arthur
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In case you needed a subtle reminder ....Nats in the Wozzie Senate wrote:U The Nationals
WIRRPANDA, David The Nationals
EAGLES, David The Nationals
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Is SHY gonna get the arse?
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Oops, double post.
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she has a double arse
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Just 8 days to go.
Current odds are Black Caviar-like for the Good Guys. Sportsbet have the Coalition at 1.03 (Centrebet 1.05) and the Pinkos at 11.50.
The shortest odds on no. of seats to be won by the Coalition is 2.10 for 91 to 100. The Labor True believers can still get 21.00 about the Coalition winning 61-70 seats and 6.00 about the Pinks winning 71-80 seats.
Current odds are Black Caviar-like for the Good Guys. Sportsbet have the Coalition at 1.03 (Centrebet 1.05) and the Pinkos at 11.50.
The shortest odds on no. of seats to be won by the Coalition is 2.10 for 91 to 100. The Labor True believers can still get 21.00 about the Coalition winning 61-70 seats and 6.00 about the Pinks winning 71-80 seats.
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Hehehe, my exact thoughts as I typed the words "double post".
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Libs are going to cut the immediate tax write for assets up to $6500 for small business.
Qunts.
Qunts.
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Three Stooges put on show
"THE heads of Treasury and Finance have distanced themselves from Kevin Rudd's claim of a $10 billion hole in Coalition costings, saying figures released today were not compiled under the Charter of Budget Honesty and used different budget assumptions.
The Prime Minister earlier today used confidential advice given by the two departments to cabinet to accuse Tony Abbott of attempting to perpetrate a “$10 billion fraud” on the Australian people."
The Three Stooges...
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Annoyed Treasury officials backed away from Krudd's claims of a $10 Bill black hole, saying the figures used by the Three Stooges were not valid.
Krudd, Bowen and Wong, the three biggest duds on the Pinko side of Politics.
"THE heads of Treasury and Finance have distanced themselves from Kevin Rudd's claim of a $10 billion hole in Coalition costings, saying figures released today were not compiled under the Charter of Budget Honesty and used different budget assumptions.
The Prime Minister earlier today used confidential advice given by the two departments to cabinet to accuse Tony Abbott of attempting to perpetrate a “$10 billion fraud” on the Australian people."
The Three Stooges...
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Annoyed Treasury officials backed away from Krudd's claims of a $10 Bill black hole, saying the figures used by the Three Stooges were not valid.
Krudd, Bowen and Wong, the three biggest duds on the Pinko side of Politics.
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Maybe they are positioning themselves for the position of CEO of Cricket Australia. They appear to have the right credentials.
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Just read KRudd's AMA on reddit. Without being that well versed in Australian politics, think he came off quite well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1lbe0s/i_am_kevin_rudd_the_prime_minister_of_australia/
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1lbe0s/i_am_kevin_rudd_the_prime_minister_of_australia/
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Just voted at Australia House in London.
what a pile of poo running for office in my electorate. So bad that I had to put Tony Abbott ahead of Rise Up and Fred Nile.
And FMD it was hard to work out who to put last in the Sanate. So much racism and quntishness, so few spots in the 100s.
Natch I voted for the HEMP Party number 1 and Sex Party 2.
what a pile of poo running for office in my electorate. So bad that I had to put Tony Abbott ahead of Rise Up and Fred Nile.
And FMD it was hard to work out who to put last in the Sanate. So much racism and quntishness, so few spots in the 100s.
Natch I voted for the HEMP Party number 1 and Sex Party 2.
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No Raving Loony Party candidates in your electorate?JGK wrote:Just voted at Australia House in London.
what a pile of poo running for office in my electorate. So bad that I had to put Tony Abbott ahead of Rise Up and Fred Nile.
And FMD it was hard to work out who to put last in the Sanate. So much racism and quntishness, so few spots in the 100s.
Natch I voted for the HEMP Party number 1 and Sex Party 2.
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Assange's party had someone handing out how to vote cards.
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Latest NewsPoll grim for Pinkos in Sydney's West
"LABOR faces being wiped out in enough seats in western Sydney to hand the Coalition government on gains in NSW alone on September 7.
Under Kevin Rudd's leadership, Labor is facing a similar level of "catastrophe" forecast under Julia Gillard before she was removed as prime minister eight weeks ago in a bid to avoid the loss of up to 10 seats in Sydney's west.
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On a two-party-preferred basis, using preference flows at the 2010 election, there has been a nine-percentage-point swing away from Labor to 43 per cent across the electorates of Greenway, Lindsay, Banks, Reid and Parramatta, all of which are held on margins of less than 5 per cent (yes, you heard right - 57-43 2PP to Good Guys!!).
If the swing in the five seats is uniform across the neighbouring Labor seats of Werriwa (held by 6.8 per cent), McMahon (7.9 per cent) and Fowler (8.8 per cent), as well as the nearby seat of Barton (6.9 per cent), where former attorney-general Robert McClelland is retiring, all eight seats would be lost.
A previous Newspoll survey of Labor's NSW coastal marginal seats of Robertson and Dobell, the latter held by former Labor MP now independent, Craig Thomson, has shown both seats would go to the Coalition."
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The Krudd honeymoon has turned into a nightmare as the punters remember what a qunt Krudd is.
"LABOR faces being wiped out in enough seats in western Sydney to hand the Coalition government on gains in NSW alone on September 7.
Under Kevin Rudd's leadership, Labor is facing a similar level of "catastrophe" forecast under Julia Gillard before she was removed as prime minister eight weeks ago in a bid to avoid the loss of up to 10 seats in Sydney's west.
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On a two-party-preferred basis, using preference flows at the 2010 election, there has been a nine-percentage-point swing away from Labor to 43 per cent across the electorates of Greenway, Lindsay, Banks, Reid and Parramatta, all of which are held on margins of less than 5 per cent (yes, you heard right - 57-43 2PP to Good Guys!!).
If the swing in the five seats is uniform across the neighbouring Labor seats of Werriwa (held by 6.8 per cent), McMahon (7.9 per cent) and Fowler (8.8 per cent), as well as the nearby seat of Barton (6.9 per cent), where former attorney-general Robert McClelland is retiring, all eight seats would be lost.
A previous Newspoll survey of Labor's NSW coastal marginal seats of Robertson and Dobell, the latter held by former Labor MP now independent, Craig Thomson, has shown both seats would go to the Coalition."
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The Krudd honeymoon has turned into a nightmare as the punters remember what a qunt Krudd is.
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If they are doing so badly in western Sydney then it means they are doing better in other areas of Australia considering the newspoll national is 53-47.
Which way is it then?
Which way is it then?
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Just reporting the news, Ponts.
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Repeats skully's story but I think this part of the article sums up the pinkos efforts very well ...
Someday, someone will explain to us how Labor could run a campaign as badly thought-out as this one. Right now, it seems just inexplicable
In the last days of the 1996 election campaign, treasurer Ralph Willis was duped into releasing what he thought was a letter outlining secret Coalition policies. It proved to be a fake, and it all blew up in his face, sealing Labor's defeat.
On Thursday, in the last days of this campaign, something similar happened to Treasurer Chris Bowen. With Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Finance Minister Penny Wong, he stood before journalists in Melbourne's Commonwealth Parliamentary Offices to release secret Treasury and Finance Department costings he said demonstrated a $10 billion ''black hole'' in the Coalition's policies.
"There is an error of $10 billion in the claimed $30 billion of savings the opposition released yesterday": Kevin Rudd.
"There is an error of $10 billion in the claimed $30 billion of savings the opposition released yesterday": Kevin Rudd. Photo: Andrew Meares
''There is an error of $10 billion in the claimed $30 billion of savings the opposition released yesterday,'' he said. ''This is based on advice from the departments of Treasury and Finance and the Parliamentary Budget Office.''
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Mr Bowen and Ms Wong released three pieces of official advice, all months old, in which ministers had asked Treasury, Finance and the PBO to cost what they took to be Coalition policy. The departments came up with figures showing lower savings than the Coalition has claimed.
Ms Wong declared the officials' advice showed that ''$1 in every $3 that [the Coalition] counted as savings doesn't exist''.
The Prime Minister chimed in, declaring: ''What we're doing today is calling Mr Abbott on his truthfulness. This is a $10 billion fraud on the Australian people.''
But no, it wasn't. In an unprecedented rebuke to their ministers, late on Thursday, Treasury secretary Martin Parkinson and Finance secretary David Tune issued a joint statement disowning the figures released in their name.
''At no stage . . . has either department costed opposition policies,'' they said, implying that their costings were based on assumptions supplied by the government.
''Different costing assumptions, such as the start date of a policy, take-up assumptions, indexation and the coverage that applies, will inevitably generate different financial outcomes.''
Moreover, they said, the costings they supplied to the government were based on one of the two accounting methods that both parties confusingly insist on using in budgets. The Coalition's costings were based on the other. That, too, they said, produces different figures.
The bottom line: We were not costing the Coalition's policies, so don't drag us into criticisms of their costings.
Later, head of the budget office Phil Bowen issued his own statement, concluding: ''Unless all of the policy specifications were identical, the financial implications could vary markedly.''
Someday, someone will explain to us how Labor could run a campaign as badly thought-out as this one. Right now, it seems just inexplicable.
Poll: Do you think Labor's claim of a $10b hole in Coalition's announced savings is credible?
Yes
16%
No
78%
Not sure
6%
Total votes: 14905.Poll closes in 5 hours.
Vote now: Labor's costings claim
Disclaimer: These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.
Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/its-the-labor-election-campaign-swallowed-by-the-mother-of-all-black-holes-20130830-2su5h.html#ixzz2dPqn1IyU
Someday, someone will explain to us how Labor could run a campaign as badly thought-out as this one. Right now, it seems just inexplicable
In the last days of the 1996 election campaign, treasurer Ralph Willis was duped into releasing what he thought was a letter outlining secret Coalition policies. It proved to be a fake, and it all blew up in his face, sealing Labor's defeat.
On Thursday, in the last days of this campaign, something similar happened to Treasurer Chris Bowen. With Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Finance Minister Penny Wong, he stood before journalists in Melbourne's Commonwealth Parliamentary Offices to release secret Treasury and Finance Department costings he said demonstrated a $10 billion ''black hole'' in the Coalition's policies.
"There is an error of $10 billion in the claimed $30 billion of savings the opposition released yesterday": Kevin Rudd.
"There is an error of $10 billion in the claimed $30 billion of savings the opposition released yesterday": Kevin Rudd. Photo: Andrew Meares
''There is an error of $10 billion in the claimed $30 billion of savings the opposition released yesterday,'' he said. ''This is based on advice from the departments of Treasury and Finance and the Parliamentary Budget Office.''
Advertisement
Mr Bowen and Ms Wong released three pieces of official advice, all months old, in which ministers had asked Treasury, Finance and the PBO to cost what they took to be Coalition policy. The departments came up with figures showing lower savings than the Coalition has claimed.
Ms Wong declared the officials' advice showed that ''$1 in every $3 that [the Coalition] counted as savings doesn't exist''.
The Prime Minister chimed in, declaring: ''What we're doing today is calling Mr Abbott on his truthfulness. This is a $10 billion fraud on the Australian people.''
But no, it wasn't. In an unprecedented rebuke to their ministers, late on Thursday, Treasury secretary Martin Parkinson and Finance secretary David Tune issued a joint statement disowning the figures released in their name.
''At no stage . . . has either department costed opposition policies,'' they said, implying that their costings were based on assumptions supplied by the government.
''Different costing assumptions, such as the start date of a policy, take-up assumptions, indexation and the coverage that applies, will inevitably generate different financial outcomes.''
Moreover, they said, the costings they supplied to the government were based on one of the two accounting methods that both parties confusingly insist on using in budgets. The Coalition's costings were based on the other. That, too, they said, produces different figures.
The bottom line: We were not costing the Coalition's policies, so don't drag us into criticisms of their costings.
Later, head of the budget office Phil Bowen issued his own statement, concluding: ''Unless all of the policy specifications were identical, the financial implications could vary markedly.''
Someday, someone will explain to us how Labor could run a campaign as badly thought-out as this one. Right now, it seems just inexplicable.
Poll: Do you think Labor's claim of a $10b hole in Coalition's announced savings is credible?
Yes
16%
No
78%
Not sure
6%
Total votes: 14905.Poll closes in 5 hours.
Vote now: Labor's costings claim
Disclaimer: These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.
Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/its-the-labor-election-campaign-swallowed-by-the-mother-of-all-black-holes-20130830-2su5h.html#ixzz2dPqn1IyU
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Caught Bowen jibbering to Kieran Gilbert on Sky this arvo. Talk about blowing bubbles. Lots of "no, we said this" and "no, we said that" and lots of sideways tap-dancing when Gilbert asked "But weren't you just wrong?".
Gilbert hammered home the point that the 2 most senior bureaucrats in the country don't come out and call bullshit after an Election campaign stunt (like the 3 Stooges' effort yesty) unless something is seriously bogus. More bubbles came out of Bowen's red-faced gob. He is now inextricably linked to two of the most despised Pinkos in the country - Krudd and Wong. You just locked in loss of your seat, Chris old boy.
I reckon everyone in Rudd's office would be hiding today for fear of getting their heads kicked in by a seething Krudd.
Gilbert hammered home the point that the 2 most senior bureaucrats in the country don't come out and call bullshit after an Election campaign stunt (like the 3 Stooges' effort yesty) unless something is seriously bogus. More bubbles came out of Bowen's red-faced gob. He is now inextricably linked to two of the most despised Pinkos in the country - Krudd and Wong. You just locked in loss of your seat, Chris old boy.
I reckon everyone in Rudd's office would be hiding today for fear of getting their heads kicked in by a seething Krudd.
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The Economist endorses ALP by default.
How embarrassing for Abbott.
How embarrassing for Abbott.
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More embarrassing for The Economist more likely
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The media seems to be relishing heaping shit on Krudd and the Pinkos at the moment. Ten, Nein and Sky all ran with the story tonight about testy Kev sweating profusely in a stuffy room, with a crying baby, a fainting girl, collapsing microphones, and blowing TV lights (a lovely metaphor for the Labor campaign so far), struggling to fend off the Black Hole debacle, then irritatedly blaming the media for not pushing Tony Abbott hard enough on policy costing.
Each network then ran Joe ("chill out, Bill") Hockey lapping up Bill Shorten's foul mood in a joint interview with 3AW's Neil Mitchell this morning.
The more Kevy/Bill/Penny/Chris stamp their widdle feet, the more the media loves it.
Each network then ran Joe ("chill out, Bill") Hockey lapping up Bill Shorten's foul mood in a joint interview with 3AW's Neil Mitchell this morning.
The more Kevy/Bill/Penny/Chris stamp their widdle feet, the more the media loves it.
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