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Post by skully Sun 01 Jan 2017, 06:42

Pakistan lost the recent 2nd Test at MCG v Australia by an innings after commencing their 2nd innings on Day 5. I believe this has only happened 4 times previously in Tests. Anyone wanna do a search and destroy? I'm happy to give clues.

Innings loss after commencing 2nd innings on Day 5 of Test:

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Pak (443-9d & 163) lost to Aus (624-8d), Melbourne, 2016-17
Day 5: Aus 465-6 to 624-8d/Pak 163ao
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Post by WideWally Sun 01 Jan 2017, 07:11

When the Lankans collapsed on the final day against England about 5 or 6 years ago?

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Post by skully Sun 01 Jan 2017, 07:23

Yes.

Innings loss after commencing 2nd innings on Day 5 of Test:

?

?

SL (400 & 82) lost to Eng (496-5d), Cardiff, 2011
Day 5: Eng 491-5 to 496-5d/SL 82ao

?

Pak (443-9d & 163) lost to Aus (624-8d), Melbourne, 2016-17
Day 5: Aus 465-6 to 624-8d/Pak 163ao
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Post by embee Sun 01 Jan 2017, 09:37

ashes gabba 46
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Post by skully Sun 01 Jan 2017, 09:55

Aye.

Innings loss after commencing 2nd innings on Day 5 of Test:

?

Aus (645) beat Eng (141 & 172), Brisbane, 1946-47
Day 5: Eng 117-5 to 141ao & 172ao

SL (400 & 82) lost to Eng (496-5d), Cardiff, 2011
Day 5: Eng 491-5 to 496-5d/SL 82ao

?

Pak (443-9d & 163) lost to Aus (624-8d), Melbourne, 2016-17
Day 5: Aus 465-6 to 624-8d/Pak 163ao
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 03:50

Hints.

Innings loss after commencing 2nd innings on Day 5 of Test:

? - Pre-WWI but after turn of century

Aus (645) beat Eng (141 & 172), Brisbane, 1946-47
Day 5: Eng 117-5 to 141ao & 172ao

SL (400 & 82) lost to Eng (496-5d), Cardiff, 2011
Day 5: Eng 491-5 to 496-5d/SL 82ao

? - A rare loss at "home" (between 2011 & 2016)

Pak (443-9d & 163) lost to Aus (624-8d), Melbourne, 2016-17
Day 5: Aus 465-6 to 624-8d/Pak 163ao
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 07:20

Carn. Just sort through the handful of innings victories in those 2 periods.
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Post by WideWally Mon 02 Jan 2017, 07:57

Saffies vs Australia in 1910?
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Post by WideWally Mon 02 Jan 2017, 08:03

I think the other might have been Pakistan against New Zealand in 2014/15.

Howstat claimed the match finished on day 4
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=2166

However Cricinfo shows it finished on Day 5
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-new-zealand-2014/engine/match/742615.html
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 08:08

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Post by WideWally Mon 02 Jan 2017, 08:10

skully wrote:I don't have that one. I'm going a Day 4 finish. Smile

The "home" is important in the quote.

That was why I thought it might have been Pakistan as they playing "home" matches in the UAE.
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 08:10

Wally has both. My mistake with the post you quoted (you were too quick for me).

Innings loss after commencing 2nd innings on Day 5 of Test:

Aus (528) beat SAf (174 & 240), Sydney(1), 1910-11
Day 5: SAf 146-7 to 174ao & 240ao

Aus (645) beat Eng (141 & 172), Brisbane, 1946-47
Day 5: Eng 117-5 to 141ao & 172ao

SL (400 & 82) lost to Eng (496-5d), Cardiff, 2011
Day 5: Eng 491-5 to 496-5d/SL 82ao

Pak (351 & 259) lost to NZ (690), Sharjah, 2014-15
Day 5: NZ 637-8 to 690ao/Pak 259ao

Pak (443-9d & 163) lost to Aus (624-8d), Melbourne, 2016-17
Day 5: Aus 465-6 to 624-8d/Pak 163ao
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Post by lardbucket Mon 02 Jan 2017, 09:34

some shockers in that lot, but none worse than the 2011 Sri Lankan debacle

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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 09:41

Suranga Lakmal took his first Test michelle v SAf in the recent 1st Test in PE. He took 67 Test wickets before managing this first 5-fer. Only 2 other bowlers have an equal or worse record. Who?

Most wickets before first 5-fer in Tests:

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67 wkts – RAS Lakmal (SL)
5/63 v SAf, Port Elizabeth, 2016-17
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Post by JGK Mon 02 Jan 2017, 14:19

I would guess Shane Warne but don't know if he ever took 5 wickets in an innings in any form of the game.

Therefore I'll try with the first John Reid.

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Post by JGK Mon 02 Jan 2017, 14:19

Does Mike Hendrick count?

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Post by JGK Mon 02 Jan 2017, 14:20

JGK wrote:Does Mike Hendrick count?

Ah, clearly not because Brian McMillan would as well.

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Post by horace Mon 02 Jan 2017, 17:41

Bernard Julian is the short of 4th banana for this sort of triv
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 21:58

JGK wrote:I would guess Shane Warne but don't know if he ever took 5 wickets in an innings in any form of the game.

Therefore I'll try with the first John Reid.

John Reid just misses this short list. He took 63 wickets before his first michelle.

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JGK wrote:Does Mike Hendrick count?

Ah, clearly not because Brian McMillan would as well.

Neither got a michelle (as you know)

horace wrote:Bernard Julian is the short of 4th banana for this sort of triv

Er no.
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 22:01

Bumpity.

Suranga Lakmal took his first Test michelle v SAf in the recent 1st Test in PE. He took 67 Test wickets before managing this first 5-fer. Only 2 other bowlers have an equal or worse record. Who?

Most wickets before first 5-fer in Tests:

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67 wkts – RAS Lakmal (SL)
5/63 v SAf, Port Elizabeth, 2016-17
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Post by skully Mon 02 Jan 2017, 22:03

FTR, Warnie took just 5 wickets before his first epic michelle - 7-52 v Windies at MCG in 1992. Huzzah!!
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Post by lardbucket Mon 02 Jan 2017, 22:29

Somewhere a fan of cricket and Simon Taufel is checking that stat.

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Post by lardbucket Tue 03 Jan 2017, 00:09

Too hard for me, this one ... I do know that Doug Walters and Bevan Congdon took their first Michelles very late in their careers, perhaps as late as anybody, but neither of them took enough wickets to be on this list.

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Post by skully Tue 03 Jan 2017, 01:09

Looking for two pretty highly credentialed bowlers, both with over 100 career Test wickets.
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Post by lardbucket Tue 03 Jan 2017, 01:13

Richie Benaud?

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