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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 01:55

I’ve just seen footage of the incident in Bristol. How else can I say this?........he’s f*cked. I can’t see how he’ll play in the ashes after this, and at the very least I can’t see how he’ll avoid a suspended prison sentence.

Oh yeah, and there goes the Ashes as far as England are concerned...... Mad
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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 01:57

For those that haven’t seen it, a guy clearly identifiable as Stokes is lashing out at several men in the street. Another guy who appears to be Alex Hales seems to be half-heartedly trying to stop him whilst also fearing he could get caught in the crossfire. It really doesn’t look good.
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Post by Bradman Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:03

Damn! So he definitely won't be coming?
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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:12

Have you seen the video? Even if the police clear him to travel to Australia, the ECB (or the ICC? Can they intervene?) will be under extreme pressure to suspend him for quite a long time.

For all of the likely talk of who started it and what was actually said/done leading up the brawl,  Stokes was incredibly stupid to put himself into that kind of position. And he clear yhas anger management issues. Frequently an asset on the field, but evidently a f*cking diabolical liability off it.
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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:15



Here is the video. I can’t find the version with sound but the more I look at it the more awful it looks.
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Post by Red Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:22

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ben-stokes-threw-15-punches-in-one-minute-as-details-of-brawl-emerge-20170928-gyqaau.html

That's a lot of punches!

It was reported in our press today that he will probably be required to fly back to the UK at some stage for a court appearance.
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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:26

Saw it too. Wonder if he was on Ice. Could explain the out of control behaviour. But not excuse! The blokes he attacked had their hands up. He ignored them. Lucky he did not have a gun or knife.

Hales limp attempt to pacify his mate are also problematic.

Don't care about the Ashes. If the Stanny blokes did time for match fixing, this bloke needs double their sentences.

Saw Strauss only discussing his broken hand and selection on the tour. He studiously avoided discussing the incident. I really hope he had not seen footage of the incident when he gave the interview.
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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:27

Suggestions (hopeful ones?) in some quarters that he was trying to stop a random ‘glassing’ of one of his mates.......
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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:31

horace wrote:Saw it too. Wonder if he was on Ice. Could explain the out of control behaviour. But not excuse! The blokes he attacked had their hands up. He ignored them. Lucky he did not have a gun or knife.

Hales limp attempt to pacify his mate are also problematic.

Don't care about the Ashes. If the Stanny blokes did time for match fixing, this bloke needs double their sentences.

Saw Strauss only discussing his broken hand and selection on the tour. He studiously avoided discussing the incident. I really hope he had not seen footage of the incident when he gave the interview.

He hadn’t. This footage was released by the Sun newspaper a little over three hours ago.
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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:34

Thanx Trev. Strauss has always been an honorable bloke. He must be feeling pretty dire as would the other pommy players
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Post by lardbucket Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:36

Poor little Stokesy, eh, and poor England, the nasty police and media might spoil his chances of touring Australia. Still, perhaps the police are too scared of his Mum to do anything ...

RIP David Hookes, etc.

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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:41

lardbucket wrote:Poor little Stokesy, eh, and poor England, the nasty police and media might spoil his chances of touring Australia. Still, perhaps the police are too scared of his Mum to do anything ...

RIP David Hookes, etc.

Spot on. Just luck the blokes who landed on the ground did not hit their heads. Too many others have received brain injury in such circumstances.
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Post by Red Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:55

Henry wrote:Suggestions (hopeful ones?) in some quarters that he was trying to stop a random ‘glassing’ of one of his mates.......

Are there alternatives to his actions? Smile Smile
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Post by Henry Thu 28 Sep 2017, 02:57

lardbucket wrote:Poor little Stokesy, eh, and poor England, the nasty police and media might spoil his chances of touring Australia.  Still, perhaps the police are too scared of his Mum to do anything ...

RIP David Hookes, etc.

I don’t think anyone is defending his actions. What happened was a disgrace. The ‘stopping a glassing’ theory could be seen as a motive, rather than an excuse.
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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 03:33

Red wrote:
Henry wrote:Suggestions (hopeful ones?) in some quarters that he was trying to stop a random ‘glassing’ of one of his mates.......

Are there alternatives to his actions? Smile Smile

Apparently the Pies are interested in recruiting him
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Post by tricycle Thu 28 Sep 2017, 05:29

Pathetic person.

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Post by furriner Thu 28 Sep 2017, 06:57

Wow. That wasn't any old miss and hit flail and stumble comedy routines drunken men indulge in.

What shocks me is that that had real venom to it. Stokes was into it like those crazed men we see rioting on TV, who when they get started, end only when someone's dead.

I thought I saw someone in the video try and take a bottle to someone else, but man, I don't want to meet a drunk Stokes in a dark alley at night. Come to think of I wouldn't want to meet any kind of Stokes any time, day or night.

Unless it's not him, or unless we have missed some crucial fact, this is going to define the public perception of Stokes for a long time. Asshole.
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Post by taipan Thu 28 Sep 2017, 07:15

Looks a better boxer than Flintoff.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 28 Sep 2017, 07:21

He's got a future in underworld enforcement.

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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 07:58

ECB playing a bespoke dead bat. 'Spokes'man conceded they had seen the video but then dithered around the legal situation.

If Pig 🐷 had a shred of sense he would withdraw from the tour while he goes through the legal process. Instead I expect he will place the team in a very difficult situation.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 28 Sep 2017, 08:03

He should withdraw citing mental health issues.  It's believable.

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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 08:08

lardbucket wrote:He should withdraw citing mental health issues.  It's believable.

Psychopathy is not a mental health problem or illness.
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Post by Big Dog Thu 28 Sep 2017, 08:10

horace wrote:
lardbucket wrote:He should withdraw citing mental health issues.  It's believable.

Psychopathy is not a mental health problem or illness.

Meh...gingers are all batshit crazy.
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Post by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 08:17

Big Dog does make a fair point.
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