Re: Oh Stokesy......STOKESY!!!

by furriner Thu 28 Sep 2017, 19:48

Well FWIW- not much- it says on cricinfo that he was allegedly defending two gay men from homophobic slurs.

That was a hell of a lot of defending, if true....

by taipan Thu 28 Sep 2017, 21:21

beamer wrote:Well, you need a few "pricks" (or perhaps Cricketers of Unbelievable Natural Talent) in your team, but they have to be in the minority and kept under control. I don't mind him exchanging a few verbals with opponents, but getting involved in drunken punch-ups can't be tolerated and he needs teaching a lesson over this.

We pick too many for being "good team men", captains and coaches use it to justify picking sub-standard players who are easy to handle...

Woakes does seem to be the anti-Stokes though (one of the decent blokes, who I'm sure never smokes and probably only drinks Cokes...) I remember reading a comment a few years back (I think in the media as opposed to on here) saying that Woakes is "the one you would tell your parents you're at his house, when you're actually out on the town with Alex Hales" - how fitting that is given recent events

Sort of puts KP into perspective.

by beamer Thu 28 Sep 2017, 21:33

Well, very different issues really - KP didn't get on with his team-mates, Stokes certainly does... perhaps a bit too well, with the late night drinking sessions etc...

by horace Thu 28 Sep 2017, 22:36

Surprised re Hales suspension UFN. Thought he was the one trying to call
Pig off and copping a clip for his trouble.

In terms of the Stokes " I was standing up for gay folk defence", Warner tried a similar line, " was standing up for Amla when Root was doing a racist parody" defence.

The differences were Jo was not hospitalised, the Jacks were not called in and IIRC the gcspoc received a short suspension.

Personally I think the gcspoc should have received a minimum 12 months suspension.

by beamer Thu 28 Sep 2017, 22:44

Well, Hales was there when it kicked off so I guess they just want to find out what happened. He's not in the Ashes squad so only misses a couple of JAMODIs before the matter is resolved anyway.

by Bradman Thu 28 Sep 2017, 22:47

All in all it's nice for it to be happening to someone other than us pre tour.

by skully Fri 29 Sep 2017, 00:09

beamer wrote:Well, you need a few "pricks" (or perhaps Cricketers of Unbelievable Natural Talent) in your team, but they have to be in the minority and kept under control. I don't mind him exchanging a few verbals with opponents, but getting involved in drunken punch-ups can't be tolerated and he needs teaching a lesson over this.

We pick too many for being "good team men", captains and coaches use it to justify picking sub-standard players who are easy to handle...

Woakes does seem to be the anti-Stokes though (one of the decent blokes, who I'm sure never smokes and probably only drinks Cokes...) I remember reading a comment a few years back (I think in the media as opposed to on here) saying that Woakes is "the one you would tell your parents you're at his house, when you're actually out on the town with Alex Hales" - how fitting that is given recent events

100% agree beams.

As all English supporters know, it has been the Aus way since Crappelli's time. But being a hard man and prick on the field cannot, under any circumstances, translate into to being a stomping bovver boy off it.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. I reckon Stokes will tour but be suspended for the first month, or sumpent like that.

by Bradman Fri 29 Sep 2017, 00:15

Something for us to bitch about if he does.

by JGK Fri 29 Sep 2017, 00:56

furriner wrote:Well FWIW- not much- it says on cricinfo that he was allegedly defending two gay men from homophobic slurs.

That was a hell of a lot of defending, if true....

For his sake, I really hope he can corroborate that.

by Bradman Fri 29 Sep 2017, 01:20

Apart from the public, maybe, I don't think it will matter.

by Red Fri 29 Sep 2017, 01:48

beamer wrote:Well, you need a few "pricks" (or perhaps Cricketers of Unbelievable Natural Talent) in your team, but they have to be in the minority and kept under control. I don't mind him exchanging a few verbals with opponents, but getting involved in drunken punch-ups can't be tolerated and he needs teaching a lesson over this.

We pick too many for being "good team men", captains and coaches use it to justify picking sub-standard players who are easy to handle...

Woakes does seem to be the anti-Stokes though (one of the decent blokes, who I'm sure never smokes and probably only drinks Cokes...) I remember reading a comment a few years back (I think in the media as opposed to on here) saying that Woakes is "the one you would tell your parents you're at his house, when you're actually out on the town with Alex Hales" - how fitting that is given recent events

You have a poem in there somewhere.

by PeterCS Fri 29 Sep 2017, 02:16

A poem? For Foakes' sake.

by Bradman Fri 29 Sep 2017, 02:26

He's even almost nailed a meter.

by furriner Fri 29 Sep 2017, 02:55

horace wrote:Surprised re Hales suspension UFN. Thought he was the one trying to call
Pig off and copping a clip for his trouble.

...............

On another website they were arguing that Hales was as bad if not worse. While he did try and call Stokes off, he also at various points- apparently- kicked some guy in the head.

by Red Fri 29 Sep 2017, 03:43

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ben-stokes-blasted-over-video-mocking-katie-price-and-dwight-yorkes-son-20170928-gyr1zr.html

Stokes now in trouble for mocking a disabled boy.

by JGK Fri 29 Sep 2017, 04:04

Red wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/ben-stokes-blasted-over-video-mocking-katie-price-and-dwight-yorkes-son-20170928-gyr1zr.html

Stokes now in trouble for mocking a disabled boy.

Not sure he was mocking so much as repeating a pretty funny line.

by horace Fri 29 Sep 2017, 07:02

You could raffle the brain cell between pig and gcspoc

by taipan Fri 29 Sep 2017, 07:56

Please note that horrie has donated his brain cell to allow this raffle to go ahead.

I think he deserves all our thanks.

by Nath Fri 29 Sep 2017, 09:37

if this cricket thing doesn't pan out, he can always join Adam Hollioake in MMA

by beamer Fri 29 Sep 2017, 23:52

Or fight Rio Ferdinand in the boxing ring...

by skully Sat 30 Sep 2017, 01:22

I see a ECB rap over the knuckles then "be a good boy" and off he'll sail with the squad.

by PeterCS Sat 30 Sep 2017, 01:26

Has he got England banned from using planes?

by skully Sat 30 Sep 2017, 01:44

Metaphorical boat. Cool

by PeterCS Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:28

But I was thinking - if he put his enraged Popeye fist through the door, side or wall of a pressurised cabin ....

by beamer Sat 30 Sep 2017, 22:02

Reports suggest that Bairstow (pretty much confirmed by previous photos), Ball and Plunkett were the other players out drinking with them that night - none present at the time of the incident but may be subject to (presumably minor) disciplinary proceedings.

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