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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:38

PS for Trike, just FYI:

Mr E [Ernest] Smith, 19 years a fast bowler for Yorks:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Smith_(cricketer,_born_1869)

Mr J.A. [John] Dixon, Nottinghamshire captain & England footballer (pic is from 1899):

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dixon_(English_sportsman)

Mr J.R. [Jack] Mason. Kent stalwart (1895, from a magazine series of the time):

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Mason

And last and possibly least (sorry, Frank), the very languid-looking Mr N.F. Druce (1895, same magazine series):

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Druce !
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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:40

It sort of brings the dead to life. (I think.)
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Post by tricycle Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:41



This is where I remembered Mold's throwing from.

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Post by tricycle Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:43

PeterCS wrote:PS for Trike, just FYI:

Mr E [Ernest] Smith, 19 years a fast bowler for Yorks:
and the others in the list...
This is brilliant. Cheers

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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:44

The mighty Tom Richardson, for good measure: Trivia 2020 - Page 3 Tomric10


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Post by tricycle Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:46

Was Briggs part of this series of matches? Seeing as Peel was there

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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:48

So that follow-on question, let's keep it short. A single question, no embellishments.

Then I promise to give yez all a rest!


Who has taken over here from WG Grace, in the Oval match that immediately followed the Lord's joust?

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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:50

tricycle wrote:Was Briggs part of this series of matches? Seeing as Peel was there

Not in either of the 1895 matches! But I've no doubt in another year.

Maybe Lancs got first dibs ...
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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 13:57

tricycle wrote:

This is where I remembered Mold's throwing from.

"ORFF, ORFF, ORFF!! GET THE EBSOLYUTE FLIPPIN' BOUNDER ORFF, THE RENK OUTSIDER!!!" I bet they yelled from the Pavilion.

Or something closer (in fact) to what you might hear nowadays. They weren't all that suppressed and quaint.
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Post by tricycle Mon 30 Mar 2020, 14:16

PeterCS wrote:So that follow-on question, let's keep it short. A single question, no embellishments.

Then I promise to give yez all a rest!


Who has taken over here from WG Grace, in the Oval match that immediately followed the Lord's joust?

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Guessing on the basis of his fivehead big forehead... Billy Murdoch?

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Post by tricycle Mon 30 Mar 2020, 14:18

Bobby Abel captaining the Players?

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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 17:05

Definitely correct on the first (is that what is called "highbrow"?) - one of the Aussies in England:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Murdoch

And everything in his facial structure, those wide-set, staring eyes and his short stature (plus his bulbous head and even his lightish hair) suggests you are right on the second, too. "The Guv'nor", decades before Alec Stewart came along.

Interesting reading (including the cracking jibe in the cartoon) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Abel

Poor guy. No player welfare in those days. ...

Also (just because HIS biog IS up): https://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/8480.html


Because cricinfo is a disaster area, here's the Wisden write-up of the second match. This time closer - ending up as a draw. Apols once again for the indistinct reproduction. You'll get the drift.

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Gwynn - not Nell, another Irishman - is an interesting case, highlighted in the report. Looks like a sort of younger brother of Fry, nonetheless. The same obvious athleticism, the same show of dandyish insouciance, the same (desperate?) daredevil air, and even the same way of holding the bat for the "front-of-pavilion pose". You'll know that photo of Fry, I suppose.

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So he's easy to find in the team picture. As easy to spot as Big Tom in the Players photograph.



(I forgot to mention above that the Lord's game was a run-scoring bonanza - including Grace's last Lord's century, if I read that right. Maybe the old rogue's bones were creaking by the end of the game, which would also explain his absence at the Oval.)

Signing off the questions on the two G v P games of 1895. Let me know if you'd like any more of this sort of old-fashioned punishment. But I'll give yez all a break, take one myself, and allow the more stats-based specialist to take over!
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Post by tricycle Mon 30 Mar 2020, 17:53

Excellent. Will wait for the next one. Though I won't be able to spare too much time till the weekend.

Did a bit of searching around after this, and saw that the early "Cricket" magazines are available at the statisticians website for free.

https://archive.acscricket.com/cricket/1895/286/index.html

Interesting ads there... LJ Nicolls.

And a bit about Abel.
https://www.wisden.com/almanack/bobby-abel-the-guvnor-and-an-oval-favourite-almanack

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Post by PeterCS Mon 30 Mar 2020, 18:39

Ah. good stuff.

And I stand corrected. I thought & said it was "Wisden". It clearly wasn't!

A neat tribute to Abel.

Raising willow, not .... Cain.


(As indicated, I can't see myself lobbing in another ancient grenade here before the weekend.)
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Post by skully Thu 02 Apr 2020, 07:37

Here's one for the Search and Destroyers.

In one of the few Test matches played in 2020, Pakistan beat Bangladesh by an innings and 44 runs at Rawalpindi in February. They made 445 in their only innings. Remarkably 4 batsmen made scores of 0, 1, 2 & 3 in that all out total. Amazingly, another team made even more runs and achieved the same feat. Who and when? [Bonus; There is another game where a team scored just a few less than Pakistan and also had a 0, 1, 2 & 3]. Both matches are post 2000.

Large all out total (>400) with individual scores of 0, 1, 2 & 3:

?

Pak (445/only inns) v BD, Rawalpindi, 2019-20 - #2 Abid Ali 0; #10 Mohammad Abbas 1*; #11 Naseem Shah 2; #9 Shaheen Shah Afridi 3

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Post by PeterCS Thu 02 Apr 2020, 15:50

I'm not going to S&D, but it looks like the sort of thing England would do.... and Pakistan keep doing.

As consistent as numbers in a lottery draw.
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Post by skully Fri 03 Apr 2020, 03:29

Nice tip, P.

No England but... hmmm

Henri Bergson may get a mention in relation to these answers.
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Post by PeterCS Fri 03 Apr 2020, 14:54

"Time and Free Will"?
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Post by skully Sat 04 Apr 2020, 00:01

Well, more the Python reference, old cock. Cool
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Post by skully Sat 04 Apr 2020, 00:40

Bump.

Here's one for the Search and Destroyers.

In one of the few Test matches played in 2020, Pakistan beat Bangladesh by an innings and 44 runs at Rawalpindi in February. They made 445 in their only innings. Remarkably 4 batsmen made scores of 0, 1, 2 & 3 in that all out total. Amazingly, another team made even more runs and achieved the same feat. Who and when? [Bonus; There is another game where a team scored just a few less than Pakistan and also had a 0, 1, 2 & 3]. Both matches are post 2000.

Large all out total (>400) with individual scores of 0, 1, 2 & 3:

?

Pak (445/only inns) v BD, Rawalpindi, 2019-20 - #2 Abid Ali 0; #10 Mohammad Abbas 1*; #11 Naseem Shah 2; #9 Shaheen Shah Afridi 3

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Post by Bradman Sat 04 Apr 2020, 01:00

Bergson hmmmm. As I always had you as Mrs Scum, so you've totally confused me. But wtf, nothing else to do, may as well dig in.
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Post by PeterCS Sat 04 Apr 2020, 01:10

Is the correct answer Rene Descartes?


Or ... fish?
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Post by skully Sat 04 Apr 2020, 03:04

"A blow in the head"?
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Post by skully Sat 04 Apr 2020, 03:06

Bradman wrote:Bergson hmmmm.  As I always had you as Mrs Scum, so you've totally confused me.  But wtf, nothing else to do, may as well dig in.

The Bergson reference relates to colour.
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Post by Bradman Sat 04 Apr 2020, 03:42

Okay.........After this perhaps a discussion on your perceptions of Bergson geek boy. Still got me thinking. Important to exe code the mind as well as the body during end of days.
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