Aussie Forummers: The Howard Years

G.Wood wrote:I'd forgotten how much labor supporters are like subis

and how much lib supporters are like upper class english twits...

it is dodo's like LJH, Bush, flat earth (and head)economists, murdoch and the whole crazy anti gumint intervention and regulation types who let the financial sector run amok....a pox on all their mcmansions (tho RD of course is never likely to contract that)...

extreme capitalism found its apotheosis in the old USA - yep the ones who bullied the IMF and the World Bank into taking bizarre ideological stances in their loan practices to the Third World, enriching their mates in haliburton et al...I look forward to the time when the USA goes cap in hand to the IMF for help and is told "yes you may have this loan, provided you strengthen your regulatory practices, boot the private sector out of health insurance etc"

Oi h, remind me again who introduced deregulation in the financial markets. It were that qunt Keating.

I noted he was too stingey to sign a bottle of Grange to be auctioned for MS over the weekend. Qunt.

we still have decent prudential requirements...tho I'd happily kick the tripe out of Macquarrie and other merchant aka sleaze banks..

btw...do you really think li'll JH would be doing better...I heard him on the radio this am sounding more like milton friedmann lecturing some sleepyheaded usa banker types and hungover IAG execs....lecturing against regulation...snort...

The little jerk didn't give a rats about the humanities just like his supporters on here. Selfish to the bone.
Couldn't use a computer, modelled himself on Ming and left the China trading windfall for Costello to dole out enough to match bracket creep.

You two bob supporters won't be whinging about Rudd down the track. Obama is in and the freakin' war will be another 'nam.

We have a leader we can be proud of in Kevin Rudd.

Educated, cultured and a high IQ.

I am beginning to think that we would have been better off under Bomber than Krudd!

I hate the qunt, little lying weasel Howard.

In case nobody's noticed, most of the major economies have fallen into recession. I suppose little Johnny would somehow make our economy immune from that.

skully wrote:Oi h, remind me again who introduced deregulation in the financial markets. It were that qunt Keating.

I noted he was too stingey to sign a bottle of Grange to be auctioned for MS over the weekend. Qunt.

Huh? It was the deruglation that allowed the Four Pillars to fall and allowed other banks like HSBC and more competition enter the market. That is a good thing.

Red wrote:
In case nobody's noticed, most of the major economies have fallen into recession. I suppose little Johnny would somehow make our economy immune from that.

I suppose you're saying its just a coincidence that Labor gets into power and six months later the world economy falls apart.

ten years after wrote:

Red wrote:
In case nobody's noticed, most of the major economies have fallen into recession. I suppose little Johnny would somehow make our economy immune from that.

I suppose you're saying its just a coincidence that Labor gets into power and six months later the world economy falls apart.

Christ man, the Republicans milked 700 billion during the lame duck year.

Do your homework or read the WS journal.

It's a bit of an Aussie pastime to whinge about the PM......

Paul Keating wrote:I am beginning to think that we would have been better off under Bomber than Krudd!

Trev will tell you that being under Bomber isn't all that much fun

Para Batsman wrote:The little jerk didn't give a rats about the humanities just like his supporters on here. Selfish to the bone.
Couldn't use a computer, modelled himself on Ming and left the China trading windfall for Costello to dole out enough to match bracket creep.

You two bob supporters won't be whinging about Rudd down the track. Obama is in and the freakin' war will be another 'nam.

We have a leader we can be proud of in Kevin Rudd.

Educated, cultured and a high IQ.

Spoken like the brain surgeon that you are.

Watching that show last night reminded me of why I was a fan of Howard.

He took some very ballsy decisions during that first term in office. Gun control and waterfront reform were badly needed, yet going ahead with them was never going to be easy. Making big budget cuts was never going to be easy. Resurrecting the GST was never going to be easy. Dealing with the Wik decision was never going to be easy.

In later years he was more content to go with the public flow, the great exception being Work Choices.

Howard copped a lot of vitriol from all sides during that first term and he just kept on going. There's a lot to be said for someone like that.

Hass, as I said - a farkin Legend.

Krudd, if remembered at all, will go down as a purse-lipped, p!ss-weak, union-bashed destroyer of the economy.

skully wrote:Hass, as I said - a farkin Legend.

Krudd, if remembered at all, will go down as a purse-lipped, p!ss-weak, union-bashed destroyer of the economy.

who could speak mandarin and surf the net for porn ffs

Hass wrote:Watching that show last night reminded me of why I was a fan of Howard.

He took some very ballsy decisions during that first term in office. Gun control and waterfront reform were badly needed, yet going ahead with them was never going to be easy. Making big budget cuts was never going to be easy. Resurrecting the GST was never going to be easy. Dealing with the Wik decision was never going to be easy.

In later years he was more content to go with the public flow, the great exception being Work Choices.

Howard copped a lot of vitriol from all sides during that first term and he just kept on going, and with exception of the gun laws displayed consistent stupidity which soon descended into hubris and lying to all and sundry, inc his own colleagues. There's a lot to be said for someone like that...most of it unprintable in a family forum.

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Hass wrote:Watching that show last night reminded me of why I was a fan of Howard.

He took some very ballsy decisions during that first term in office. Gun control and waterfront reform were badly needed, yet going ahead with them was never going to be easy. Making big budget cuts was never going to be easy. Resurrecting the GST was never going to be easy. Dealing with the Wik decision was never going to be easy.

In later years he was more content to go with the public flow, the great exception being Work Choices.

Howard copped a lot of vitriol from all sides during that first term and he just kept on going. There's a lot to be said for someone like that.

I will be interested to see if you continue to be a fan after episodes 2,3 and 4.

A never ever GST
Tears Education and Health spending to shreds
Children Overboard
Weapons of Mass Destruction

History will not be kind to the Coward.

he and the likes of reith are hopefully among the last of the ruling class to consider that they are elected to be class warriers and to sink the boots (and dogs teeth) into workers and the bootless and unhorsed of the population

Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

And unlike Fraser, there is almost zero chance that Howard will mellow in his old age and see the errors of his ways.

It's amazing how conservatives like Fraser and Hewson, and modern day libs like Costello and Turnbull can see the plight of refugees and immigrants, but Howard simply never cared.

Paul Keating wrote:And unlike Fraser, there is almost zero chance that Howard will mellow in his old age and see the errors of his ways.

It's amazing how conservatives like Fraser and Hewson, and modern day libs like Costello and Turnbull can see the plight of refugees and immigrants, but Howard simply never cared.

howard 'cared' enough to make craven dog whistle politics out of refugees and immigrants....agree with peterg

peterg wrote:Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

On the positive side I would add the introduction of the GST and the harmonisation of daylight saving.

There was one further thing in his first term that we came up with this morning at work but it escapes my me at the moment.

****** Daylight Saving

Gotta go with embbe there. My clock shows 1342 where as JGK's should show 1442.

OK, I was more happy with it starting in early October in NSW rather than late October. I couldn't GAF about the rest of the country.