Re: Aussie Forummers: The Howard Years

by G.Wood Tue 18 Nov 2008, 03:51

JGK wrote:OK, I was more happy with it starting in early October in NSW rather than late October. I couldn't GAF about the rest of the country.

See, you can be a spiv when you try.

Feels good doesn't it

by Bradman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 03:55

Well we've got enough sunshine up here so I spose the Mexicans have got to make do with any help they can get.

Haven't got the Brisbane Line mentality yet have you?

by Bradman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 03:57

I'm sure being a spiv feels good at the mo if you're in the receivership business.

by G.Wood Tue 18 Nov 2008, 03:59

All I know is that my boss's clock says 8 when mine says 9, and mine says 5 when his says 4.

Hence, I start work on chip time and finish on spiv time.

DST is farking ace

by embee Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:10

Bradman wrote:I'm sure being a spiv feels good at the mo if you're in the receivership business.

Would explain Movember's popularity with the Spivs ...

by G.Wood Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:11

I can't believe I misssed that one

by Bradman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:21

You're "other you" wouldn't have missed it in the good 'ol days.

Pity mo's are the only things that grow bigger with age.

by G.Wood Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:24

Have you not seen the "other me's" gut recently?

by Bradman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:40

I saw his gut in his prime and it was shit then.

I also remember he seemed not to be to handicapped by it as most Derby winners didn't like being photographed next to him.

by G.Wood Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:52

Aye, his body was just a tool with which to transport his asset around

by Red Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:57

peterg wrote:Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

I second that.

by Red Tue 18 Nov 2008, 04:58

JGK wrote:
peterg wrote:Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

On the positive side I would add the introduction of the GST and the harmonisation of daylight saving.

There was one further thing in his first term that we came up with this morning at work but it escapes my me at the moment.

He said he'd never introduce a GST and daylight saving still isn't harmonised.

by Bradman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:07

Feminazi revenge joke even.

RJ= life support system for a c**k.

by embee Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:12

Red wrote:
JGK wrote:
peterg wrote:Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

On the positive side I would add the introduction of the GST and the harmonisation of daylight saving.

There was one further thing in his first term that we came up with this morning at work but it escapes my me at the moment.

He said he'd never introduce a GST and daylight saving still isn't harmonised.

That's true ....and then he went an election AFTER making that statement with the explicit theme of TAX REFORM , the centrepiece of which was a GST ...

by horace Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:23

after the facts of the lie and implementation...the illegal economy continues to do very well...there are plenty of nob arthur daly types who are members of the libs

by horace Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:24

of course LJH allowed bronnyB to torture us old folks with the kero and her beehive hairdo

by Fred Nerk Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:28

Actually Louie the Fly sacked the Bronster (TF late but better late than never) - then Half(wit) Nelson brought it back.

by Bradman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:33

The GST election gave him no mandate for it as he went from a commanding majority to a slim one.

by horace Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:34

true...but not before the 'bronster beat' had become a national joke for those outside nursing homes...half brought her back as a north shore kind of thing I guess

by Para Batsman Tue 18 Nov 2008, 05:36

peterg wrote:Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

Well said.

Disagree on guns. He did his research and saw it as a vote winner. I remember polls showing huge margins with women in favour of recalling guns.

If the polls had been proguns he would not have lifted a finger.

by Red Tue 18 Nov 2008, 07:52

[quote="Para Batsman"]

peterg wrote:Howard does deserve praise for his treatment of guns, which was difficult and courageous.
But there's little more on the positive side and massive amounts that are sometimes grievously negative.

He was captive of, and blinded by, the most conservative ideology of all Austrtalian PM's.

This meant that he followed the idiocy of Bush's foreign policy.

It meant that he virtually ignored climate change for a crucial decade.

He squandered the fruits of a once in decades mining boom on tax cuts, which helped fuel the asset price bubbles.

He pared spending on education, training, research, infrastructure and health.

He damaged seriously the concepts of ministerial integrity and responsibility and the independence of the public service.

He was always liable to sow the seeds of civil division, and to give aid and comfort to the underlying racist strands in Australian society.

Well said.

Disagree on guns. He did his research and saw it as a vote winner. I remember polls showing huge margins with women in favour of recalling guns.

If the polls had been proguns he would not have lifted a finger.[/quote]

Precisely, he's the most polls motivated PM I can remember.

And the GST is a millstone around all our necks. The reality is he promised never to introduce one. The fact that the Democrats bitch who aided and abetted him basically was responsible for the downfall of her party says a lot about what the people think about this insidious tax.

by ten years after Tue 18 Nov 2008, 08:23

Para Batsman wrote:
ten years after wrote:
Red wrote:
In case nobody's noticed, most of the major economies have fallen into recession. I suppose little Johnny would somehow make our economy immune from that.

I suppose you're saying its just a coincidence that Labor gets into power and six months later the world economy falls apart.

Christ man, the Republicans milked 700 billion during the lame duck year.

Do your homework or read the WS journal.

Since Labor always runs huge deficits and massive interest rates it seems obvious that the financial institutions all around the world panicked after last years election win and went on a selling binge that has brought the world economy to it's knees.

I'm surprised Malcolm Turnbull hasn't pointed this out.

by Paul Keating Tue 18 Nov 2008, 08:43

Is this serious or a case of NSR?

by ten years after Tue 18 Nov 2008, 09:19

Paul Keating wrote:Is this serious or a case of NSR?

I did find myself wondering how preposterous a statement i could make and still have someone think it was serious.

Maybe i should have blamed Kevin Rudd for Australia's defeat in India.

by JGK Tue 18 Nov 2008, 11:38

The GST while unpopular was necessary (as Keating himself knew).

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