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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:07

Ok, so having thought about it and the obvious must plays basically that the selection committee want to pick if fit.... Heres a comparison of perhaps what I think would be the best England side to pick on form over the last year or so.

This includes players currently injured!

Pick your favored side and compare it to the obvious Dave Grave side, with a five bowler policy below:

Strauss
Cook
Vawn
KP
Bell/Colly
Fred
Prior
Harmison
Hoggard
Panesar
Anderson
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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:09

Ok here goes, here's my side:

I'm assuming Vawn must be captain:

Cook
Vawn
Shah
KP
Colly
Sales
Fred
Prior
Panesar
Anderson
Hoggard
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:12

holcs wrote:Ok here goes, here's my side:

I'm assuming Vawn must be captain:

Cook
Vawn
Shah
KP
Colly
Sales
Fred
Prior
Panesar
Anderson
Hoggard

That would be mine, although if we're fantasising about people being fit, I'd have Tres instead of Cook.
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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:17

Aye but he's unavailable and not played in a year!
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:21

Whereas Flintstein 2007 = Flintstein 2005! jocolor
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Post by JKLever Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:28

You've both missed Ian Bell off your teams for some reason.
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Post by JKLever Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:33

My side:

Cook
Vawn
Bell
KP
Colly
Shah
Fred
Prior
Harmison
Hoggard
Panesar

Not a hope in hell of that being the team though.
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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:34

This is nowt to do with that JK. Stick your favored England side and set up in.
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Post by JKLever Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:35

holcs wrote:This is nowt to do with that JK. Stick your favored England side and set up in.

it's done man, are you blind!
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:37

Um, you seem to have an aesthetically pleasing bloke with little substance at 3, JKL.
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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:41

not when I wrote it.

so not much difference really.
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Post by eowyn Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:42

What would be interesting to see:

Trescothick
Cook
Vaughan
Bell
Pieterson
Collingwood
Flintoff
Read
Broad
Hoggard
Panesar



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Post by JKLever Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:45

I'd go with Read at 8, so long as we could be guaranteed Fred at 7.

(Not that he'll even make the tour of course..)
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Post by eowyn Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:47

It's supposed to the team we want we're posting, not what will be isn't it?
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Post by JKLever Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:49

Aye.

*crawls back in hole*
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Post by lardbucket Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:49

Cook
Bell
Vawn
KP
Collingwood
Strauss
Read
Tremlett
Hoggard
Panesar
Sidebottom

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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:50

Yes ange

And Read FFS? Pfft!

But I do like the look of your bowling attack
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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:51

Nice. I see what you're doing Ange - sticking a couple of weak links, spread out over our line-up to give us a bit of a challenge and keep viewers interested. Good idea.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:51

A fully fit Flintoff capable of bowling 20 overs a day? That would be the day!

For Sri Lanka then, I would pick:

Cook
Key
Vaughan*
Pietersen
Shah
Collingwood
Rashid
Flintoff
Read / Nixon+
Hoggard
Panesar

And before the howls of protest come in...

Yes Rob Key! - I think Vaughan can't cope with the workload of being a captain and opener - just doesn't want to do it. And as he's captain its his choice. So it is a bit of a cop-out picking him as an opener. You either have him as captain in the middle order or not at all. So, with Strauss' form so bad I would have to look somewhere else and at the moment the only viable alternative is Key. Maybe Strauss will come back stronger after a break.

Have gone for the best two seamers (Flintoff & Hoggard) and spinner & spin bowling all-rounder for SL. For English conditions you would probably change Rashid for SiBo, Anderson (or if the cosmic galaxies are in alignment - probs by 2012!) Harmison.

FWIW I would have Bell as the batting reserve for the tour, mainly because of his improvement in form at the end of the English summer.
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Post by holcs Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:56

The only howls I would make would be over Wissy Weed.
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Post by Gary 111 Wed 26 Sep 2007, 13:58

Well I won't turn this into yet another me vs the world thread about Read. Suffice it to say (in my opinion) he can bat as well as Prior and in Sri Lanka you need to take as many chances as possible.
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Post by eowyn Wed 26 Sep 2007, 14:00

JKLever wrote:Aye.

*crawls back in hole*

Good chap.
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Post by eowyn Wed 26 Sep 2007, 14:02

holcs wrote:Yes ange

And Read FFS? Pfft!

But I do like the look of your bowling attack

Ye gods and little fishes, praise indeed.
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Post by Merlin Wed 26 Sep 2007, 14:03

Tres
Cook
Vawn
Shah
KP
Colly
Fred
Mustard
Anderson
Hoggard
Panesar

Subs:
Strauss
Harmisson
Sales
Prior
Bopara

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Post by eowyn Wed 26 Sep 2007, 14:03

Batfink Begins wrote:Nice. I see what you're doing Ange - sticking a couple of weak links, spread out over our line-up to give us a bit of a challenge and keep viewers interested. Good idea.

It's why I watch.
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