West Indies v England, 1st Test, Kingston, Feb 4-8

With all his reverse swing he'll get on helpful pitches... .


He'll get a call up next after taking snoozer wickets on lively pitches.

We'll be seeing Mahmood in the Ashes

DJ_Smerk wrote:
We'll be seeing Mahmood in the Ashes

At least you'll get to see him at last...

Dello wrote:

DJ_Smerk wrote:
We'll be seeing Mahmood in the Ashes

At least you'll get to see him at last...

I've seen the dross he churns out. Once he turns dross into gold, get back to me.

You don't sound like you have. You couldn't possibly deduce that his action is faulty unless you A) have never seen him bowl or B) haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Dello wrote:You don't sound like you have. You couldn't possibly deduce that his action is faulty unless you A) have never seen him bowl or B) haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

I agree about his action. It's his cricketing brain that worries me. Maybe I just got fed up with those embarrasing floaty slower balls...

35 wickets at 32.77 econ 3.55 last season says he didn't find much reverse swing. Then you have Kabir Ali who played one less match with 59 wickets at 18.74......

Dello wrote:You don't sound like you have. You couldn't possibly deduce that his action is faulty unless you A) have never seen him bowl or B) haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Just because I don't think a player is worth picking means "I don't know what I'm talking about"? That is an amazing response. So the universal view is that Sajid Mahmood is Test Worthy? That means unless I agree with you then I have no clue?

Fair rule.

Plus, when did I diss his action? He might have all the capabilities of being a test class bowler, he's been tried and tested and hasn't delivered the goods.

We are shit.

And Stuart Broad is the most over-rated England cricketer since James Anderson first came onto the scene.

DJ_Smerk wrote:

Dello wrote:You don't sound like you have. You couldn't possibly deduce that his action is faulty unless you A) have never seen him bowl or B) haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Just because I don't think a player is worth picking means "I don't know what I'm talking about"? That is an amazing response. So the universal view is that Sajid Mahmood is Test Worthy? That means unless I agree with you then I have no clue?

That's not what I said at all. The clues are all there in the sentence. If you can't read, I'm not going to help you.

Plus, when did I diss his action? He might have all the capabilities of being a test class bowler, he's been tried and tested and hasn't delivered the goods.

By describing Stuart Broad's action as "better" and "more fluent" (even though it's, by his own admission, still a work in progess), by implication you're suggesting Mahmood's action is in pieces. Which it isn't.

Has he been tried and tested without consistently delivering the goods? To a degree, yes. Is eight Tests, scattered around here and there, two games on, three games off, a decent "crack" at it? Possibly.

But if you're using that as your argument for the retention of Stuart Broad, who has had far more opportunities to impress, against weaker opposition and has performed much worse, it's not going to wash.

Jebus!!!

Eng all out 318 and the Windies 1-160. WTF???

Apparently flux capacitors have been installed at several cricket grounds. Esecially those where England and Australia play.

Aye, the cricket world as we know it has gone mad.

this thread is forum gold

skully wrote:Aye, the cricket world as we know it has gone mad.

No, we've just gone back to the future.

horace wrote:this thread is forum gold

Must have a read.

40 pages of pomgolians in their cups, complete with cries of 'we need the big mahmoo' - saj mahmood-

has given cause for optimisim for the ashes tour

"indies are a team on the up"

I hope so.

horace wrote:40 pages of pomgolians in their cups, complete with cries of 'we need the big mahmoo' - saj mahmood-

has given cause for optimisim for the ashes tour

Aye h. Ashes 09 is up as "Carp v Carper".

skully wrote:

horace wrote:40 pages of pomgolians in their cups, complete with cries of 'we need the big mahmoo' - saj mahmood-

has given cause for optimisim for the ashes tour

Aye h. Ashes 09 is up as "Carp v Carper".

As stated earlier, it's back to the future.

Of course that should have read...

Ashes 09 is shaping up as "Carp v Carper".

I suspect that's why they called it the 'Ashes'.

My coat's right here...

skully wrote:

horace wrote:40 pages of pomgolians in their cups, complete with cries of 'we need the big mahmoo' - saj mahmood-

has given cause for optimisim for the ashes tour

Aye h. Ashes 09 is up as "Carp v Carper".

I await Mahmood v North.

I have an 'orrible feeling that today's cricket's going to be hell to watch!

Getting all three - Gayle, Sarwan and Chanders - before lunch is going to be crucial or else England are going to be looking at a deficit of 100+ at the close tonight with yet more agony to come tomorrow.

The sad fact is that, other than Fred, I don't see anyone else doing the job ... Gawd, that is a depressing thought!

Bring Bell on.