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Post by Zat Wed 11 Mar 2009, 02:11

Yep. Ashwell Prince, who hasn't been in the SAf side for the past five Tests, has been selected for the next Test, and comes back into the side as captain, and as an opener. Must say I find this a bit odd, despite the reasoning Procter gives.

http://content.cricinfo.com/rsavaus2009/content/current/story/394673.html

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Post by DJ_Smerk Wed 11 Mar 2009, 02:13

Does this mean Kenzie has been dropped?
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Post by Zat Wed 11 Mar 2009, 02:27

DJ_Smerk wrote:Does this mean Kenzie has been dropped?
from the linked article:
Neil McKenzie's Test career is at the crossroads after he was dropped along with Morne Morkel for the third Test in Cape Town. Ashwell Prince will return to the side as captain to replace the injured Graeme Smith and Prince will also take Smith's role as opener, alongside the Dolphins batsman Imraan Khan, who is in line for his Test debut.

Albie Morkel has a chance to make his first Test appearance having been retained in the squad, while the uncapped fast bowler Wayne Parnell has also been included.
I'll assume you're at the office and they block cricinfo.


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Post by embee Wed 11 Mar 2009, 02:34

Was McKenzie the VC?
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Post by skully Wed 11 Mar 2009, 03:33

Aye, quite remarkable (re: thread topic).

I wonder when this last happened? Didn't Brearley into the side as captain when Beefy was dropped form the skipperhood during the 81 Ashes series.
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Post by embee Wed 11 Mar 2009, 03:40

skully wrote:Aye, quite remarkable (re: thread topic).

I wonder when this last happened? Didn't Brearley into the side as captain when Beefy was dropped form the skipperhood during the 81 Ashes series.

Chris Cowdrey was after that
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Post by skully Wed 11 Mar 2009, 03:40

Cheers MB.
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Post by Zat Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:08

So despite the secession from the Commonwealth in the 60s, and the strong Dutch influence those Afrikaaners still know how to be like the English...

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Post by tac Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:10

I reckon Prince is being sold a dog on this one . . . thrown straight in to open . . .
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Post by OP Tipping Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:13

Tough gig.

Not sure who else might have been captain. Boucher, I suppose.
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Post by tac Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:13

Obviously Kallis IS as thick as he looks . . . never see his name pop up as possible captain . . .
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Post by OP Tipping Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:20

Kallis did have a match as captain, 11 years ago.

BTW, d'y'all know there have only been three RSA captains who have skippered 20 tests or more? GCS is by far their most experience captain evah.
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Post by OP Tipping Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:49

Then again, Brearley was never good enough to be in the side, _except_ as captain.

Not that AP is of Brearley's type.
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Post by embee Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:52

Possibly Shoaib Malik ....didn't play in Aloo's last Test ...captain the next...although there was 8.5 months gap between Tests
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Post by OP Tipping Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:54

Could be that the next test captain of Pakistan is someone we've never heard of...
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Post by taipan Wed 11 Mar 2009, 05:37

OP Tipping wrote:Kallis did have a match as captain, 11 years ago.

BTW, d'y'all know there have only been three RSA captains who have skippered 20 tests or more? GCS is by far their most experience captain evah.

Kallis was the VC a couple of years back and captained SA in a test then IIRC. He chucked the VC in a pique after being dropped from the T20 side. Boucher was VC for a bit before that but has never really wanted the top job.

Didn't Close come into captain against the WI, circa 1968.
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Post by Naeem Wed 11 Mar 2009, 08:57

Tough on Prince. If Imran Khan outscores him by 1 run during this test, Prince will be dropped.
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Post by skully Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:00

I agree, Naeem. Prince is the Saffie version of Simon Katich. Extremely poorly treated.
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Post by Nath Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:01

skully wrote:I agree, Naeem. Prince is the Saffie version of Simon Katich. Extremely poorly treated.

does this imply there's a Saffie version of horrie out there? jocolor
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Post by taipan Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:03

Nath wrote:
skully wrote:I agree, Naeem. Prince is the Saffie version of Simon Katich. Extremely poorly treated.

does this imply there's a Saffie version of horrie out there? jocolor

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Post by Nath Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:05

taipan wrote:
Nath wrote:
skully wrote:I agree, Naeem. Prince is the Saffie version of Simon Katich. Extremely poorly treated.

does this imply there's a Saffie version of horrie out there? jocolor

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oh! aye-aye
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Post by WideWally Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:06

skully wrote:Aye, quite remarkable (re: thread topic).

I wonder when this last happened? Didn't Brearley into the side as captain when Beefy was dropped form the skipperhood during the 81 Ashes series.

Lee Germon captained New Zealand in his test debut.
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Post by skully Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:11

Indeed he did Wally. And he didn't exactly disgrace himself either.
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Post by lardbucket Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:44

This thread title (Tony) Lewis FFS ...

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Post by taipan Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:46

Didn't Cowdrey and Simpson come back to captain long after their sell by dates?
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