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Post by JKLever Wed 25 Mar 2009, 13:21

Jimmy invented Bage.
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Post by WIFAN Wed 25 Mar 2009, 14:56

Please play Amjad! That is a guaranteed 10 runs in extras and at least 2 free hits. WTF were they thinking selecting him for a ODI?

My Windies side:

Gayle
Richards
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Pollard
Bravo
Ramdin
Sammy
Miller
Rampaul/Baker
Edwards

Batting goes down to number 10, plus 2 aggressive openers who will exploit the powerplays if they are in.

Gayle needs only 1 more century to become the leading West Indian century maker in ODI history. If he manages it he will have scored 20 centuries, 1 more than BCL.


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Post by doctorspin Wed 25 Mar 2009, 14:58

JKLever wrote:Jimmy invented Bage.
KING JIMMAAAHHHH will win us back The Ashes....mark my words
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Wed 25 Mar 2009, 21:33

Strauss*
Bopara
Davies+
Pietersen
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Rashid
Maskyouranus
Broad
Anderson

Davies to float in the order depending on circumstances. Push him down the order if we don't lose an early wicket. England have shown a ridiculous unwillingness to show any flexibility in their one day lineup.
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Post by Merlin Wed 25 Mar 2009, 22:39

Like the idea of floating Davies ... I note we have the same team 'cept you go for Broad instead of 'armless.

Only reason I'd drop Broad is because I think he's ****** - both bodily and in the head. He's going to be watched very closely here on in by the Umps ... after the way he ragged off in the last ODI. Pathetic, childish, petty and it wouldn't surprise if Straussey skipped over him for Barbados.

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Post by beamer Wed 25 Mar 2009, 22:42

Broad's still our most reliable one-day bowler, if you take out Freddie who misses as many as he plays... that fact perhaps says a lot about the failings of the others, but I don't think one poor game is grounds for dropping him.

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Post by Basil Thu 26 Mar 2009, 00:42

Merlin wrote:Like the idea of floating Davies ... I note we have the same team 'cept you go for Broad instead of 'armless.

Only reason I'd drop Broad is because I think he's ****** - both bodily and in the head. He's going to be watched very closely here on in by the Umps ... after the way he ragged off in the last ODI. Pathetic, childish, petty and it wouldn't surprise if Straussey skipped over him for Barbados.

Floating Davies? Why not floating Bops, or Colly or any other of our frontline batsmen?

I think Broad's knackered and needs a rest. He also needs a talking to about attitude ( preferably not from his old man)
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Post by Henry Thu 26 Mar 2009, 02:52

I don't mind the general Broad attitude. It just needs to be adjusted a bit. It's certainly better than the sulky, introvert, too scared to say boo fast bowlers that England have tended to produce in the last 5 years. To me, Simon Jones's attitude was perfect.
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Post by Merlin Thu 26 Mar 2009, 08:02

Henry wrote:I don't mind the general Broad attitude. It just needs to be adjusted a bit. It's certainly better than the sulky, introvert, too scared to say boo fast bowlers that England have tended to produce in the last 5 years. To me, Simon Jones's attitude was perfect.

Agree.
But SJ seldom if ever bowled wides, and even when he did, he didn't throw toys out of his pram nor did he persist in whinging and whining to the umpire until even his captain finally told him to STFU.
There's the difference.

Broad's "aggressiveness" works against him more often than not when petulance takes over - that one over in Providence proved it.

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Post by JKLever Thu 26 Mar 2009, 11:54

5 consider 'switching' to IPL
http://content.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/396890.html

WTF is up with you guys? You're like the French & their strikes. If there's not a bust up between players & board you're not happy.

Oh, and ban India.
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Post by Red Thu 26 Mar 2009, 12:08

JKLever wrote:5 consider 'switching' to IPL
http://content.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/396890.html

WTF is up with you guys? You're like the French & their strikes. If there's not a bust up between players & board you're not happy.

Oh, and ban India.

Fair enough but it also seems just as logical to scrap this ill-considered series and just focus on the Ashes. Why does England need to play seven tests every home summer?
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Post by Merlin Thu 26 Mar 2009, 12:09

It just seems one constant on-going argie-bargie out there, where it seems that the WI Board give the impression they are god like and unwilling to listen. The ICC still await an answer from the WICB as to where and how the $11 million given to them for the WC 2 years ago was spent!

Can't blame the players .... although having said that, if they do go to IPL there may not be a route back into the WI team once their central contracts expire.

And with Stanford fashion parading prison clothes, the money tree won't be there anymore.

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Post by JKLever Thu 26 Mar 2009, 12:12

Red wrote:
JKLever wrote:5 consider 'switching' to IPL
http://content.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/396890.html

WTF is up with you guys? You're like the French & their strikes. If there's not a bust up between players & board you're not happy.

Oh, and ban India.

Fair enough but it also seems just as logical to scrap this ill-considered series and just focus on the Ashes. Why does England need to play seven tests every home summer?

Or we could scrap the Ashes and move the WI series later in the year. All for the IPL.

It's to fulfill broadcasting obligations.
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Post by JKLever Thu 26 Mar 2009, 12:13

Merlin wrote:It just seems one constant on-going argie-bargie out there, where it seems that the WI Board give the impression they are god like and unwilling to listen. The ICC still await an answer from the WICB as to where and how the $11 million given to them for the WC 2 years ago was spent!

Can't blame the players .... although having said that, if they do go to IPL there may not be a route back into the WI team once their central contracts expire.

And with Stanford fashion parading prison clothes, the money tree won't be there anymore.

WICB need to cull a few of the money grabbers. They won't of course....
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Post by Red Thu 26 Mar 2009, 12:19

JKLever wrote:
Red wrote:
JKLever wrote:5 consider 'switching' to IPL
http://content.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/396890.html

WTF is up with you guys? You're like the French & their strikes. If there's not a bust up between players & board you're not happy.

Oh, and ban India.

Fair enough but it also seems just as logical to scrap this ill-considered series and just focus on the Ashes. Why does England need to play seven tests every home summer?

Or we could scrap the Ashes and move the WI series later in the year. All for the IPL.

It's to fulfill broadcasting obligations.

They wouldn't be getting rewarded for their investment from a devalued contest though. Surely a very depleted West Indian team playing would be reflected in poor ratings and lack of bodies in the bleachers.
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Post by Henry Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:33

FFS there has been a dispute every year for the last 4 years. Who is moving the goal posts?
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Post by WIFAN Thu 26 Mar 2009, 18:08

WICB need to cull a few of the money grabbers. They won't of course.

I take it you wrote this before learning that the players haven't even been paid for the tour of NZ? And that they weren't consulted about the tour to England, the WICB just licked their lips and said 'whoopee more money for us'.

The players are not at fault here at all, and the only thing that needs culling is the WICB itself.
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Post by WIFAN Thu 26 Mar 2009, 18:15

Btw this would probably be the IPL affected squad to tour England.....

Denesh Ramdin (wk, c)
Dale Richards
Adrian Barath
Ramnaresh Sarwan
Lendl Simmons
Darren Bravo
Narsingh Deonarine
Brendan Nash
Darren Sammy
Sulieman Benn
Gavin Wallace (hopefully anyway)
Lionel Baker
Gavin Tonge
Ravi Rampaul
Andrew Richardson

Some utterly carp players, some very good young prospects that could be competitive in the Caribbean but in English conditions, early on in the summer it could be painful to watch.
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Post by JKLever Thu 26 Mar 2009, 18:28

WIFAN wrote:
WICB need to cull a few of the money grabbers. They won't of course.

I take it you wrote this before learning that the players haven't even been paid for the tour of NZ? And that they weren't consulted about the tour to England, the WICB just licked their lips and said 'whoopee more money for us'.

The players are not at fault here at all, and the only thing that needs culling is the WICB itself.

Yep, I was amazed they haven't been paid for previous series yet still played in the current one tbh!
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Post by WIFAN Thu 26 Mar 2009, 18:58

It's worse than that, a number of players who got injured on the last few tours have not been paid their medical fees, and had to foot the bill for some of their own treatment even though the injuries occurred whilst playing for the West Indies.

The players have been very patient but nothing has been sorted out and they had to do something to get things moving.
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Post by Guest Fri 27 Mar 2009, 13:03

Windies win toss and choose to bowl.

Flintoff is playing.

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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 27 Mar 2009, 13:06

Noice.
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Post by holcs Fri 27 Mar 2009, 13:06

Harmlessone out!
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Post by Guest Fri 27 Mar 2009, 13:07

Harmison ain't.

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Post by holcs Fri 27 Mar 2009, 13:07

And another thing, WTF is Batty playing for England. He is farking gash and hasn't even finished his quota of overs in any of the other games.
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