Windies in England, warm up matches

Henry wrote:Mahmood should be discarded for good. Don't know why Dello rubs one out over him every night. He bowls one decent delivery per over. If the batsman can negotiate that, then it's buffet ball time for the other 5 balls.

He's all looks (bowling-wise). Big-tall lean feller who gets good bounce and carry- can't bowl people out or keep it tight though. Like Harmison really.

Eric Air Emu wrote:

Henry wrote:Mahmood should be discarded for good. Don't know why Dello rubs one out over him every night. He bowls one decent delivery per over. If the batsman can negotiate that, then it's buffet ball time for the other 5 balls.

He's all looks (bowling-wise). Big-tall lean feller who gets good bounce and carry- can't bowl people out or keep it tight though. Like Harmison really.

A Brainless Northern idiot?

Sarwan tried to drive Woakes on the up and edged it to slip. Not the greatest shot it has to be said.

Woakes for England?

DJ_Smerk wrote:Woakes for England?

In early season English conditions he would be as good as anyone. Not sure about later in the season in good weather though.......

76/4 at close. Play was stopped 15 minutes early because the sun was in the batsmans eyes. I swear that has happened before at Derby. What a farce!

Shiv and Nash to the rescue. Shiv settling in for bed and breakfast while Nash is in reasonable form and will bore the spectators to tears.

It happens every year at Derby, hence why there are plans afoot to rotate the wicket 180 degrees in the near-future.

SO what have we learned from day 1?

Absolutely nothing atfuggin all.

- Devon Smith is still carp and taking up Barath's rightful place.
- Simmons still should not open the batting but bat at 4.
- Sarwan is still too aggressive at the start of his innings.
- Shiv is still God.
- Most of our fringe players are still clueless against the moving ball.

I really hope the bowling of Pascal will give us a positive to talk about by this time tomorrow.

The worrying thing for the future of English cricket was that in Woakes you had a young bowler mostly untouched by the ECB's fast bowling coaches, and in Mahmood and Plunkett, you had two products of the system. Guess who took all the wickets?

Augustus wrote:It happens every year at Derby, hence why there are plans afoot to rotate the wicket 180 degrees in the near-future.

That's so the sun will be in the batsman's eyes from the other end, right?

Zat wrote:

Augustus wrote:It happens every year at Derby, hence why there are plans afoot to rotate the wicket 180 degrees in the near-future.

That's so the sun will be in the batsman's eyes from the other end, right?

Good spot!

90 degrees, is what Gussy meant.

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:

Zat wrote:

Augustus wrote:It happens every year at Derby, hence why there are plans afoot to rotate the wicket 180 degrees in the near-future.

That's so the sun will be in the batsman's eyes from the other end, right?

Good spot!

90 degrees, is what Gussy meant.

I know what he meant, but where's the fun in that?

PMSL.

Zat wrote:

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:

Zat wrote:

Augustus wrote:It happens every year at Derby, hence why there are plans afoot to rotate the wicket 180 degrees in the near-future.

That's so the sun will be in the batsman's eyes from the other end, right?

Good spot!

90 degrees, is what Gussy meant.

I know what he meant, but where's the fun in that?

Absolutely!

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:

Zat wrote:

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:

Zat wrote:

Augustus wrote:It happens every year at Derby, hence why there are plans afoot to rotate the wicket 180 degrees in the near-future.

That's so the sun will be in the batsman's eyes from the other end, right?

Good spot!

90 degrees, is what Gussy meant.

I know what he meant, but where's the fun in that?

Absolutely!

Just realised this. Gus was talking about Direby. It's entirely possible they think that rotating the pitch 180 degrees will work.

Derby probably don't want to move the pitch as the lack of blinding sun could well deny them a few last gasp draws as they battle to stay off the bottom of division two.

Jaysus.

Woakes now has all 6 Windian wickets - 92/6!

Henry wrote:Derby probably don't want to move the pitch as the lack of blinding sun could well deny them a few last gasp draws as they battle to stay off the bottom of division two.

In a new development, Derby are trying to have he sun moved.

Henry wrote:Derby probably don't want to move the pitch as the lack of blinding sun could well deny them a few last gasp draws as they battle to stay off the bottom of division two.

Which places the Slurrey scumbags where exactly (?) ... after Direbie thumped them last week ?

Big_Bad_Bob wrote:Jaysus.

Woakes now has all 6 Windian wickets - 92/6!

Those wickets include those of Shiv and Nash which is impressive no matter how you spin it, conducive conditions or not.

You still confident of retaining the Wisden Trophy here in England under English conditions on greentops, WIfan ?

Merlin wrote:You still confident of retaining the Wisden Trophy here in England under English conditions on greentops, WIfan ?

Well we shall see what happens when JT and Fidel get on a greentop to bowl. What is for sure is that the fringe batsmen are struggling BIGtime. As they picked the wrong batsmen in the first place it is not massively surprising.

I don't forsee the Lords test being too much of a problem. It's the Durham test that may prove problematic.

The two bits and pieces players are at the crease and have forged a massive partnership of 20:D. Given the selections of teams so far it will probably be enough to get them both in the test lineup.

170/8 at lunch

Dave Bernard Jr fighting back. Still don't rate him and he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, but he is at least providing a morale boost.

203 all out, 59 to Dave Bernard Jr and a nice little cameo from Suliemann Benn took us to an okish but ultimately disappointing score.