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Post by Zat Mon 23 Aug 2010, 04:20

Bradman wrote:Have you ever met a twenty year old who wasn't a smart-arse and thought themselves bullet proof?
My point exactly, which is why I didn't want to give him any more ideas.

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Post by bodyline Mon 23 Aug 2010, 05:01

What went wrong? Easy - the Libs didn't crush the b@stards in NSW like in Queensland!

We need to manufacture a DD - so we can get rid of these Green farkers, and deliver the Coalition both houses!

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Post by Zat Mon 23 Aug 2010, 06:45

bodyline wrote:We need to manufacture a DD - so we can get rid of these Green farkers, and deliver the Coalition both houses!

BL, in a DD the quota to get Senators in is halved, which is why - according to a couple of the analysts I've been in touch with - Rudd didn't go for one. (Well that, and the fact that he didn't have the balls, and that he is stupid, even by billy standards.) In a half-senate election, to get a Senator in, you need over 14%, but in a DD it's just over 7.

A quick look at the weekend's Senate votes suggests that if there was a DD, the Greens would have wound up with:
1, possibly 2 in NSW
Definitely 2 in Victoria
Probably 2 in each of Qld, WA and SA
Probably 3 in Tasmania

13, possibly 14 Green Senators.

Scary as all hell no matter who you vote for, unless it's the Greens.

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Post by Bradman Mon 23 Aug 2010, 07:03

Zat wrote:
bodyline wrote:We need to manufacture a DD - so we can get rid of these Green farkers, and deliver the Coalition both houses!

BL, in a DD the quota to get Senators in is halved, which is why - according to a couple of the analysts I've been in touch with - Rudd didn't go for one. (Well that, and the fact that he didn't have the balls, and that he is stupid, even by billy standards.) In a half-senate election, to get a Senator in, you need over 14%, but in a DD it's just over 7.

A quick look at the weekend's Senate votes suggests that if there was a DD, the Greens would have wound up with:
1, possibly 2 in NSW
Definitely 2 in Victoria
Probably 2 in each of Qld, WA and SA
Probably 3 in Tasmania

13, possibly 14 Green Senators.

Scary as all hell no matter who you vote for, unless it's the Greens.

Yeah! And manufacturing a DD would take a *sh!t* of time and you'd have to wait until your current propped up majority in the Senate tuned into a hostile one.
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Post by Hass Mon 23 Aug 2010, 07:11

The Greens have the balance of power anyway.

That being the case, who cares if they end up with 9 or 13 seats? It's all academic.

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Post by Zat Mon 23 Aug 2010, 08:22

That wasn't the point Hass, bl's suggestion was that a DD would get the Greens out of the swill, which it wouldn't.

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Post by Zat Mon 23 Aug 2010, 08:31

Predictably, HItler has entered the fray...

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Post by Hass Mon 23 Aug 2010, 09:02

It may be predictable but I still laughed out loud on a few occasions.

Hitler's guide to subtle campaigning: "Or why not just say 'Gillard is a Lesbian'!?".

This reminds me of the Chaser's "Life At The Top" segment from "Yes, We Canberra!"




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Post by JGK Fri 22 Oct 2010, 03:10

What fun it is to see the Rodent unload on Cossie on the day where the Liberal Party's economic credentials are at an all time low.

Good times.

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Post by horace Fri 22 Oct 2010, 03:13

absolutely sage...the bloke who couldn't even get a gig with the ICC continues to embarass himself his party and the country
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Post by G.Wood Fri 22 Oct 2010, 03:19

JGK wrote:What fun it is to see the Rodent unload on Cossie on the day where the Liberal Party's economic credentials are at an all time low.

Good times.

So they won't be teaching Hockonomics at Unis then?
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 22 Oct 2010, 03:44

The farkin rodent effectively admits there was a Kirribilli agreement pact. And he also effectively brought down his own party and the fortunes of his country just to stroke his own ego.

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Post by horace Fri 22 Oct 2010, 06:30

it is the way of the rodent
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Post by Hass Fri 22 Oct 2010, 08:10

Howard is following in the footsteps of Hawke here by trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Howard says he didn't want to look like he was being pressured to go. Well if he'd kept his word then there wouldn't have been any need for Costello to make their Kirribilli-style pact public.

Howard just didn't want to leave the Lodge. Neither did Hawke and his attempts at justifying his decision to stay on were equally weak.



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Post by Zat Fri 22 Oct 2010, 10:31

Something's wrong, skully hasn't turned up to shout us all down for taking shots at LJH.

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Post by lardbucket Fri 22 Oct 2010, 12:09

weird thread, right from the start

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Post by JGK Sat 23 Oct 2010, 00:23

{snigger}

Howard is a sore loser: Costello
Peter Hartcher POLITICAL EDITOR
October 23, 2010
PETER COSTELLO says John Howard appears incapable of taking responsibility for losing government and his seat, in his toughest public attack on his former leader.

The former prime minister has opened a new war by criticising his former deputy in his memoir. Mr Costello told the Herald: "It's a self-serving account … he appears to be incapable of taking responsibility for the defeat of the government and for losing his seat of Bennelong.

"There's no point in trying to blame other people. He was the leader. He was responsible."

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Post by Paul Keating Sat 23 Oct 2010, 11:59

Howard the war criminal is on Q & A on Monday after the Four Corners expose.

Let's hope there is a left leaning audience who interrogate and cross examine the rodent.
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Post by JGK Sat 23 Oct 2010, 12:49

It wouldn't make a difference to him. He is the master of double think.

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Post by Paul Keating Mon 25 Oct 2010, 12:42

some hippy threw a shoe at howard. David Hicks asked howard a question. Aside from that it was fairly predictable.

The audience asked questions howard is well drilled in. More questions should have been asked about social reform, middle class welfare and cuts to health and education and infrastructure.
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Post by Henry Mon 25 Oct 2010, 12:51

There's no point in asking questions of the likes of Howard and Blair. For all the mistakes they made whilst in power, they are both extremely clever men, who are extremely confident in what they have done, and genuinely believe they did the right thing.

You wont get anything out of them. They're too good at answering questions the way they want to answer them.
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Post by JGK Mon 25 Oct 2010, 13:30

Aye. Howard showed tonight why he is Australia's greatest ever politician and it's most despicable ever Prime Minister.


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Post by horace Mon 25 Oct 2010, 23:41

all the way through he kept refering to himself in the third person as "Howard"...for a little runt he still has an ego Edmond Hillary could not scale..

entertaining tv tho
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Post by PeterCS Mon 25 Oct 2010, 23:44

Contrition is a redemptive trait.
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Post by tac Mon 25 Oct 2010, 23:44

Good to see the great man back in the limelight . . fark I miss him . . .
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