Current overrated XI

Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests Looks a decent player though
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith Nobody over-rates Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS..... He has a nice face. That tricks people
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg Test average of 46 is hardly over-rated
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player Agree
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off Agree
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great' He's a good keeper
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests..... As an allround player he is very good
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet Looks pretty good
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward Done well so far
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit. Has all the attributes

Thoughts?

Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

taipan wrote:

Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

For a moment I thought Red posted this.

Red wrote:What about Gayle? Is lauded at times as a veritable superstar, supercool, the best thing since sliced bread yet has a test average in the high 30's. Gets to play a lot on the Caribbean featherbeds as well. Has also been injury-prone of late.

Augustus wrote:I'm going to have to disagree on Smith. He seems to be a walking mass of depravities with respect to his batting technique, but he still grinds the runs out and has scored some tough ones in Pakistan and India in the past. He's not outstanding, but he's getting better, and he'll be taking some records with him to the grave one way or another.

I would disagree with Boucher too and suggest that Johnson, Broad and Southee deserve time before they can be judged.

For a moment I thought Red posted this

taipan wrote:Inshant Sharma

JGK wrote:Chaminda Vaas.

Henry wrote:

For a moment I thought Red posted this

Don't be silly. Red's overrated XI would be-

Mckenzie
Smith(c)
Amla
Kallis
Prince
De Villiers
Boucher+
M.Morkel
Harris
Steyn
Ntini

Reserves- Mandela, Tutu, Biko

Coach- Arthur

Henry wrote:

JGK wrote:Chaminda Vaas.

Nah. As a fast bowler, to have the record that he has, playing most of his cricket on the dead pitches of Sri Lanka, is quite an achievement.

Red wrote:Symonds surely is, has maybe only had one telling innings. Most of the time his higher scores have followed a flood of runs from the top order players and he hasn't had to face the world's best bowlers (i.e. his own). Batting #6 for oz is a very protected position. Would agree with Clarke for the same reasons.


I.Sharma has done nothing wrong so far.

Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

PearlJ wrote:

Red wrote:Symonds surely is, has maybe only had one telling innings. Most of the time his higher scores have followed a flood of runs from the top order players and he hasn't had to face the world's best bowlers (i.e. his own). Batting #6 for oz is a very protected position. Would agree with Clarke for the same reasons.


I.Sharma has done nothing wrong so far.

Yeah sure. Apart from both his tons have come when we have been in the sh!t.

Coming in at 5-84 and 4-119 (becoming 6-134) and he smacks a couple of 150+ scores.

Get How and Southee out of there. Southee hasn't played as many matches to be over-rated yet, and How actually looks to be one of the few in the NZ top order who could become decent test batsmen.