Re: Current overrated XI

by lardbucket Wed 07 Jan 2009, 21:46

Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

They are better than you think.

by PeterCS Wed 07 Jan 2009, 21:48

lardbucket wrote:
Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

They are better than you think.

than you think.

by PlanetPakistan Wed 07 Jan 2009, 21:48

All fast bowlers with the exception of Steyn are overrated.

by Henry Nolonga Wed 07 Jan 2009, 22:07

Steyn is overrated by PlanetPakistan.

by PlanetPakistan Wed 07 Jan 2009, 22:15

Henry Nolonga wrote:Steyn is overrated by PlanetPakistan.

perhaps you have a point...

but i don't think you will disagree that currently he is the ONLY fast bowler in the world that is even CLOSE to being tagged as a great.

by taipan Thu 08 Jan 2009, 06:32

lardbucket wrote:
Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

They are better than you think.

He also had apretty good series

by taipan Sat 03 Nov 2012, 04:48

Red wrote:AB de Villiers is a middle order batsman definitely overrated. If Stephan Fleming hadn't retired he'd be almost first on the list.

Another gem form the cricket knowitall.

by taipan Sat 03 Nov 2012, 04:55

Red wrote:
taipan wrote:A lot of the Indians here have been rating him over Steyn

Well Steyn has the opportunity to perform against us downunder this summer. His last visit to our shores was inglorious so if we compare form in Australia to date Sharma is ahead.

What are stats anyway? We all know Smith deserves to be overrated yet on reflection his aren't too bad - averaging nearly 49 as an opener at a strikerate of 61 while captaining his side. Yet the purists know he's no great shakes.

Sharks over Steyn. One of the great predictions

by taipan Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:02

Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

Some classic stuff here.

by LeFromage Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:27

I didn't know there was ever a time when Jamie How was rated in any capacity.

Smith, Bell and Clarke have turned out well. The rest seems fairly prescient.

by taipan Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:30

They are a couple of other gems.

by Fred Nerk Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:31

The blokes at 9 and 10 have done OK lately.....yeah I know, 'one swallow'....

by taipan Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:34

Wasn't Trev talking Southee up a couple of weeks ao?

by PeterCS Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:39

Dello wrote:I didn't know there was ever a time when Jamie How was rated in any capacity.

Smith, Bell and Clarke have turned out well. The rest seems fairly prescient.

That doesn't ring true.

His name was lauded to the skies on this very forum, for his potential for cat lovers (named Jay).

by Fred Nerk Wed 18 Dec 2013, 11:46

Re How: I think there may have been half an some time in the autumn of 2009. It must have been while you were out having a smoke.

by LeFromage Wed 18 Dec 2013, 12:03

Was it the time his trousers fell off in the field?

Did that even happen, or have I made it up?

by beamer Wed 18 Dec 2013, 18:42

Dello wrote:I didn't know there was ever a time when Jamie How was rated in any capacity.

Smith, Bell and Clarke have turned out well. The rest seems fairly prescient.

I'd take a pace attack of Johnson, Broad and Southee against most non-SA alternatives right now...

by taipan Wed 18 Dec 2013, 19:24

beamer wrote:
Dello wrote:I didn't know there was ever a time when Jamie How was rated in any capacity.

Smith, Bell and Clarke have turned out well. The rest seems fairly prescient.
I'd take a pace attack of Johnson, Broad and Southee against most non-SA alternatives right now...

They could have been contenders.

by horace Wed 18 Dec 2013, 22:31

PeterCS wrote:
lardbucket wrote:
Henry wrote:1. How- Kiwis rave about him but he averages 25 in tests
2. Smith (c)- Well, he's just.....Smith
3. Bell- "On the verge of greatness" FFS.....
4. Clarke- Declared a FAC whilst still swimming towards his mum's egg
5. Malik (Shoaib)- Captain's Pakistan yet hasn't even proved himself as a test player
6. Dilshan- Rated as a "Brilliant stroke player" yet he hardly ever comes off
7. Boucher+ -Average 'keeper, average batsman, yet hailed by many as a 'great'
8. Vettori- You'd think he was up there with Warne. Averages 34 in tests.....
9. Broad- Ok he's young, but hasn't really done much to justify the hype...yet
10. Johnson- Can't swing the ball into the right handers, and pretty wayward
11. Southee- NZ'ers are crossing their fingers with him...Might just be shit.

Thoughts?

They are better than you think.

than you think.

trev really is the master....smith, I Ron Clappered, clarke, boucher, potter, broad, not pidge and even southee have reasonable or tops careers

by beamer Wed 18 Dec 2013, 22:34

Shoaib Malik and Jay Meow are the only ones who have been genuinely crap and disappeared from the international scene for that reason...

by horace Wed 18 Dec 2013, 22:44

aye ...spot on...Trev is really a master

by Fred Nerk Wed 18 Dec 2013, 22:52

Trev the master-rater....

by PeterCS Wed 18 Dec 2013, 22:54

He certainly baits his fellow forummers like hardly any other.

by horace Wed 18 Dec 2013, 23:01

I think he winds up you english folk up more than the rest of us...

by Fred Nerk Wed 18 Dec 2013, 23:05

Nobody mentioned in this thread so far can possibly be as overrated as the word 'overrated'.

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