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Re: UK politics thread

Post by taipan on Wed 03 Sep 2014, 09:53

Today is a good date to start a war.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by LeFromage on Wed 03 Sep 2014, 14:09

Merlin wrote:The YES vote continues to gather momentum in the final weeks run-up ...
Salmond is doing his damndest  to fan the flames of uncertainty, whilst omitting to clarify what an independent Scottish Parliament would ACTUALLY do with regard to the salient issues like a. the Pound, b. cross Border control and c. membership of the EU.

Couldn't give a toss either way TBF, except that if the Jocks do break away, then it's the English tax payer who will be footing the bill covering the divorce, NOT the Jocks.... coz right now, the Jocks have nothing in their coffers to fork out.

Common sense and a greasy bacon butty will decide on the day ....
Don't hold your breath!

The remaining UK's taxpayers, surely.

But, yes, the government should cut the cord and not pay a penny towards the transition. Scotland are already threatening to welch on their share of the national debt, so why would the UK government pay a penny towards helping them transition smoothly towards independence?

That's the worst thing about the whole issue - the huge majority of the UK have no voice in a matter that is certainly not without consequence to their lives.

Still, continues the brilliant legacy of recent Prime Ministers: Blair destroyed the Middle East, Brown sank the economy, Cameron broke up the UK. Wonder what Ed Milliband's reign of ineptitude will consist of?
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by MoH on Wed 03 Sep 2014, 15:40

Dello wrote: Scotland are already threatening to welch on their share of the national debt

That's only if they don't keep sterling as their currency. The reason being the debt is against a shared asset so if they take part of that debt they should also be allowed to keep the asset. The trouble with that is there will then be a country with seperate fiscal and monetary policies using a currency backed up by a bigger neighbour and we've all seen how wonderfully that's worked in the euro zone.

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by Merlin on Wed 03 Sep 2014, 15:59

Dello wrote:

The remaining UK's taxpayers, surely.

But, yes, the government should cut the cord and not pay a penny towards the transition. Scotland are already threatening to welch on their share of the national debt, so why would the UK government pay a penny towards helping them transition smoothly towards independence?

That's the worst thing about the whole issue - the huge majority of the UK have no voice in a matter that is certainly not without consequence to their lives.

Still, continues the brilliant legacy of recent Prime Ministers: Blair destroyed the Middle East, Brown sank the economy, Cameron broke up the UK. Wonder what Ed Milliband's reign of ineptitude will consist of?

Yes of course ... phrased badly!

Salmond is desperate to keep the Pound.
Without it, he's f**ked ... No Euro (not part of the EU) and no Pound (not part of the UK) ...
Looks like the Banks of Clyde, Clydesdale, Renfrewshire, Argyll, Hebrides, Gleneagles and
Andy Murray's earnings will all have to pool their resources to stump up the ante to carry their economy ....  
....... good luck to them.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by taipan on Wed 03 Sep 2014, 22:45

Merlin wrote:
Dello wrote:

The remaining UK's taxpayers, surely.

But, yes, the government should cut the cord and not pay a penny towards the transition. Scotland are already threatening to welch on their share of the national debt, so why would the UK government pay a penny towards helping them transition smoothly towards independence?

That's the worst thing about the whole issue - the huge majority of the UK have no voice in a matter that is certainly not without consequence to their lives.

Still, continues the brilliant legacy of recent Prime Ministers: Blair destroyed the Middle East, Brown sank the economy, Cameron broke up the UK. Wonder what Ed Milliband's reign of ineptitude will consist of?

Yes of course ... phrased badly!

Salmond is desperate to keep the Pound.
Without it, he's f**ked ... No Euro (not part of the EU) and no Pound (not part of the UK) ...
Looks like the Banks of Clyde, Clydesdale, Renfrewshire, Argyll, Hebrides, Gleneagles and
Andy Murray's earnings will all have to pool their resources to stump up the ante to carry their economy ....  
....... good luck to them.

Which is why it is good that the 16 years old with a grasp of higher economics will be voting in this election.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by Bradman on Thu 04 Sep 2014, 02:26

JGK wrote:
Merlin wrote:
JGK wrote:Wouldn't the rest of the UK just invade them and start the 800 year clock again?

Sadly no ... we'd need an Edward Longshanks to lead from the front, but I cannot somehow envisage either
Lisbet (it's all mine) or her son and heir, Charlie Titface (hello tree) climbing atop a horse and leading the charge,
sword drawn and armour rattling.


They might if they had to give up the title to Balmoral Castle.

Isn't that the one property they personally own? i.e paid for out of their own purse.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by JGK on Thu 04 Sep 2014, 04:40

A Pro YES colleague just sent me this:

http://wingsoverscotland.com/WeeBlueBookMobileEdition.pdf

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by beamer on Sat 06 Sep 2014, 22:32

First poll showing a Yes lead tonight, is the momentum unstoppable now?

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by Basil on Sat 06 Sep 2014, 22:43

Scots voting for self-immolation. Well, well, well
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by buckSH on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 11:16

Scotland escapes tyranny ?


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Re: UK politics thread

Post by JGK on Fri 12 Sep 2014, 04:02

Sounds like the Scots are starting to get cold feet about leaving.

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by horace on Fri 12 Sep 2014, 04:17

JGK wrote:Sounds like the Scots are starting to get cold feet about leaving.


that is only because the MM looks like he will go to war against them if they vote the 'wrong way' ... the MM is worried about the changes to the Union Jack in the top left hand corner of the Oz flag
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by horace on Fri 12 Sep 2014, 04:24

so lets for a moment assume that the Scotties vote for and obtain independence w/o being nuked...if this happens and the union jack has to be redesigned, what will it be called?

the union jenny/jeremy/jill/jabberwocky/jibberjabber/johnny/jimmeh???

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by embee on Fri 12 Sep 2014, 04:30

the union jockless
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by horace on Fri 12 Sep 2014, 04:42

embee wrote:the union jockless

Ta for that ...coffee I was swallowing did a return to sender via both both nostrils
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by Basil on Fri 12 Sep 2014, 07:26

JGK wrote:Sounds like the Scots are starting to get cold feet about leaving.

Of course they are. The Chairman of John Lewis and Waitrose said yesterday said that Scotland already was a more expensive place to do business and that Independence would probably make things worse.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by JGK on Mon 15 Sep 2014, 07:43


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Re: UK politics thread

Post by skully on Mon 15 Sep 2014, 10:59

How can anyone argue with Groundskeeper Willie??!!

So, do the Scots own the oil reserves? Is that why the Poms are shitting bricks?
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by taipan on Mon 15 Sep 2014, 11:13

Is Lever busy packing?
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by buckSH on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 09:30

It doesn't look good ..

Scottish independence: Man finds piece of KFC chicken that could be shape of new UK

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by Big Dog on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 09:59

Looks more like a battered chicken embryo....Yuk
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by LeFromage on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 11:12

taipan wrote:Is Lever busy packing?

Fudge.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by beamer on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 18:10

Big Dog wrote:Looks more like a battered chicken embryo....Yuk
East Anglia's missing as well, when's their referendum?

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Re: UK politics thread

Post by LeFromage on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 22:03

Adios, Scotland. We hardly knew you.

And that was to our credit.
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Re: UK politics thread

Post by Neil D on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 22:17

Ah well.  Let's bear in mind that - Edinburgh and the Highlands aside - Scotland is a complete shi!thole.

No great loss.
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