Old players caused India to exit the WC early - Chappell
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Old players caused India to exit the WC early - Chappell
Chappell speak in Oz media
"From an Indian cultural point of view, if you do someone a favour then they owe you for life…. Sourav may have thought that was the way it is...." (On his battle with Ganguly)
"We came here with a flawed group and got results we deserved… The BCCI might be happy to sack the lot of us and move on." (Post the World Cup exit)
"We tried to change the team. To move away from an old based team, to get some young legs and strong arms as well as some good batting and bowling. But unfortunately it’s been resisted from within the team." (Before the Caribbean event)
(From Hindustan times)
"From an Indian cultural point of view, if you do someone a favour then they owe you for life…. Sourav may have thought that was the way it is...." (On his battle with Ganguly)
"We came here with a flawed group and got results we deserved… The BCCI might be happy to sack the lot of us and move on." (Post the World Cup exit)
"We tried to change the team. To move away from an old based team, to get some young legs and strong arms as well as some good batting and bowling. But unfortunately it’s been resisted from within the team." (Before the Caribbean event)
(From Hindustan times)
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So, what's your view on this?
HH_pink- Number of posts : 3353
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GSC is so bitter and twisted he could be Horrie , but as much as he wanted change within the Subi team it was resisted for a variety of reasons (Common sense , Political , etc) ...Most of the blame seems to have been lumped on GSC and he is trying to open some eyes to what he thinks happened ...If he had got all the selections he wanted and the team failed you'd hope he'd take responsibility ...but as things didn't happen the way he wanted he shouldn't be the only one blamed ...
Didnt some of GSC's "youth selections" fail and have to be replaced by old players?
Didnt some of GSC's "youth selections" fail and have to be replaced by old players?
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He's not the only one to blame, but he's surely got to take a good part of the blame. He was technically a good coach with a sound philosophy I thought, but his man-management skills were pathetic. Maybe we should have all coaches attend some school of diplomacy or something.
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He's so arrogant. He acts like he is the greatest coach in the world who was let down by everyone else, but what has he ever actually achieved as a coach apart from dismal failure?
Great batsman, shit coach.
Great batsman, shit coach.
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Henry, sum up Felcher as a batsman and Coach go on!
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embee wrote:GSC is so bitter and twisted he could be Horrie , but as much as he wanted change within the Subi team it was resisted for a variety of reasons (Common sense , Political , etc) ...Most of the blame seems to have been lumped on GSC and he is trying to open some eyes to what he thinks happened ...If he had got all the selections he wanted and the team failed you'd hope he'd take responsibility ...but as things didn't happen the way he wanted he shouldn't be the only one blamed ...
Didnt some of GSC's "youth selections" fail and have to be replaced by old players?
The series we played with most of his blue-eyed boys, we lost 4-0.
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Despite all my reservations about GSC, I by and large agree with him on this. I had the same opinion prior the WC as well.HH_pink wrote:So, what's your view on this?
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gsc in talking sh*t shock. like the little weasel who blames everyone but himself. he had gotten his younger team a year before the world cup but they were being hammered by everyone prior to it
bcci's biggest mistake - chappell over moody. proven failure over a proven success
bcci's biggest mistake - chappell over moody. proven failure over a proven success
The One- Number of posts : 9035
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What a sook this man Greg Chappell is?
He is accusing BCCI on daily basis now. I wonder why they're still keeping quiet.
He is accusing BCCI on daily basis now. I wonder why they're still keeping quiet.
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what really impresses me is that the BCCI, the Indian players and their fans really take responsibility fro their performances
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horace wrote:what really impresses me is that the BCCI, the Indian players and their fans really take responsibility fro their performances
Don't know about the BCCI but yeah, Chappell could have learned something from us in that regard.
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doremi wrote:horace wrote:what really impresses me is that the BCCI, the Indian players and their fans really take responsibility fro their performances
Don't know about the BCCI but yeah, Chappell could have learned something from us in that regard.
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doremi wrote:horace wrote:what really impresses me is that the BCCI, the Indian players and their fans really take responsibility fro their performances
Don't know about the BCCI but yeah, Chappell could have learned something from us in that regard.
Farkin PMSL! :laule: :laule: :laule: :laule: :laule: :laule:
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Applause for Horrie.
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IMO Chappell is doing Indian Cricket a service. Chappell is a control freak and as a Coach I have no time for him. But he is calling out some of the Taboos of Indian Cricket and Society as he sees it. It will obviously evoke the defensive reactions from the various narrow minded sectors who will continue to protect their wafer thin interests at the cost of the Country / team.
Dynasty and caset politics, Unprofessional institutions, Child abuse, Goonda Raj in places like Bihar are all increasingly under the focus and improving in the right direction. Indian Cricket cannot be immune from this progress.
From this perspective Chappell is doing his bit to set the cat amongst the pigeons and "out" matters like the "senior mafia" and blithering BCCI agendas.
I am hoping more people will speak out and show guys like Vengsarkar for what he stands for. Won't be long.
Dynasty and caset politics, Unprofessional institutions, Child abuse, Goonda Raj in places like Bihar are all increasingly under the focus and improving in the right direction. Indian Cricket cannot be immune from this progress.
From this perspective Chappell is doing his bit to set the cat amongst the pigeons and "out" matters like the "senior mafia" and blithering BCCI agendas.
I am hoping more people will speak out and show guys like Vengsarkar for what he stands for. Won't be long.
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which of those younger players were going to take on the WC by storm? raina failed miserably in the WI a year earlier. Gambhir too looked out of sorts till a few knock in england. uthappa the only inexperienced player failed massively despite his high talent. they were just not ready.
its foolishness brought by personal preferences really. As a vision it makes sense. but for that particular campaign at that time , it hardly makes sense. this man has not learnt to seperate personal preferences and cold hard facts even at this age.that's his problem.
does he think that just because he wanted raina in the team ,
the youngster will acquire the skills, temperament and experience necessary to take on the likes of murali and mcgrath after his spectacular failure against mighty nel and bradshaw? no logic in that really.
its foolishness brought by personal preferences really. As a vision it makes sense. but for that particular campaign at that time , it hardly makes sense. this man has not learnt to seperate personal preferences and cold hard facts even at this age.that's his problem.
does he think that just because he wanted raina in the team ,
the youngster will acquire the skills, temperament and experience necessary to take on the likes of murali and mcgrath after his spectacular failure against mighty nel and bradshaw? no logic in that really.
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There's no logic in any of these anti-senior "arguments" anyway. Just pure cold anti-emotion.
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gangles tendy and lax (and possibly aquacker and dravid) are past their best...sehwag has lost the plot....where to for indian cricket??
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horace wrote:gangles tendy and lax (and possibly aquacker and dravid) are past their best...sehwag has lost the plot....where to for indian cricket??
You tickle me, horrie.
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If Ajit the Ijit is past his best it's because he walked past it without noticing.
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Actually there is a real danger for India that Agar"kar" / Aqua"kar" may be picked for OZ. He is part of the "Kar" clan that Vengar"kar" so unashamedly favours.
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yes, besides the unworthy tendulkar the latest indian test squad features kumblekar, dhonikar, dravidkar, gangulykar, karthikar, jafferkar, sreesanthkar, khankar, singhkar, etc
sometimes i wonder if you live in a padlocked room with a gun under your pillow
sometimes i wonder if you live in a padlocked room with a gun under your pillow
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I don't want to be a troublemakar but anybody who spouts that kind of laughable conspiracy theory is a complete wankar.
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