England v India, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 29 Jul-2 Aug, 2011

and dhoni goes first ball

this has to be the lowest moment in indian cricket after the 3-0 and 2-0 losses to aus and sa in 1999-00

and to think we were on top of the world just a couple of months ago

India collapsing in a heap here. BRESSYYYYYYY!!!!! On a hat trick. Look at the man's stats! Up there with the great all rounders!

Can Brezzy Lad be dropped after this phenomenal performance with bat and ball?

Brass Monkey wrote:

furriner wrote:Let's 'not sob on forever' you say but for some reason your posts cannot desist either. Read what you write again.

Why don't you practice what you preach and not talk about it then?

Vikas,

Taips, you, jonty and mudge were getting into it - I was pretty much not talking about it (read what I've written again). I was just incredulous at the thought you reckoned he was turning for a 4th run. When he blatantly wasn't.

And I can say that Henry, taipan and jonty were getting into it before me. Either you get in and debate or you don't, just don't tell the rest of us 'not to sob' when by definition you're howling with the best of them when you get into the debate.

As for whether he was running or not, I saw it, I say he deserved to be out. I say that I would never have retracted that appeal,not against Strauss who has the farking stones to ask the Indian team to change their minds.

Anyway, well played England - comprehensive win and deserving # 1. I have no hesitation in saying the better team won - easily.

Dello Lad will give him his dues all right - in a dog's dinner dish.

PeterCS wrote:Can Brezzy Lad be dropped after this phenomenal performance with bat and ball?

You blatantly know they'll drop Morgan and play 5 bowlers on the strength of this tail performance (they'll forget the incredibly weak top order batting the preceeded it)

india deserves to lose this series. the preparation and team selection has been atrocious. i am not sure if the bcci cares about staying as no. 1 in tests

PeterCS wrote:Can Brezzy Lad be dropped after this phenomenal performance with bat and ball?

Yep, I reckon Tremlett will still be straight back in if he's fit for the next test. At least there's a lot of competition for places.

the only other option is for England to play 5 bowlers if Trott is ruled out of the next test. Wont happen though with England likely to be 2-0 up.

that was the worst hat-trick ball ever

furriner wrote:And I can say that Henry, taipan and jonty were getting into it before me. Either you get in and debate or you don't, just don't tell the rest of us 'not to sob' when by definition you're howling with the best of them when you get into the debate.

As for whether he was running or not, I saw it, I say he deserved to be out. I say that I would never have retracted that appeal,not against Strauss who has the farking stones to ask the Indian team to change their minds.

We went through this yesterday, all told, the only reason I bothered to jump in was because (repeat!) I thought that you'd thought he was running a fourth when he'd tapped in an obtusely not waited to hear 'over'. I'd have been pigsick if my team had done it but that's me.

TO:

It might have been a different story had the IPL not called by with the big bucks.

The BCCI finds it hard to resist that call.

The One wrote:...................this has to be the lowest moment in indian cricket after the 3-0 and 2-0 losses to aus and sa in 1999-00..............

It's tight 'up there' I'll tell ya that much.

BL seeking his first Test Michelle ....

Blimey.

Tis all...

India have been stupidly underprepared and that's shown a hint of arrogance imo. Complete contrast to how England prepared for the Ashes.

2-0 could be series winning already. India has the talent to win 1 of the remaining 2 tests but both? Doubt it.

In every aspect of the game, Dhoni has been awful so far in this series. And he's the game's highest paid player......

Brass Monkey wrote:.......................

We went through this yesterday, all told, the only reason I bothered to jump in was because (repeat!) I thought that you'd thought he was running a fourth when he'd tapped in an obtusely not waited to hear 'over'. I'd have been pigsick if my team had done it but that's me.

Either you debate or you don't. I don't care what your reasons are, or why you 'bothered'. But if you bothered and came back into the debate, don't tell the rest of us not to 'sob', ok? You're doing what you're telling others not to do, and it doesn't matter that you only came back because of xyz.

PeterCS wrote:TO:

It might have been a different story had the IPL not called by with the big bucks.

The BCCI finds it hard to resist that call.

hard to argue. the fact is that the ipl is here to stay, its too big to shut down

problem is that the ipl will always interfere if/when we have a test series in may-june

furriner wrote:

The One wrote:...................this has to be the lowest moment in indian cricket after the 3-0 and 2-0 losses to aus and sa in 1999-00..............

It's tight 'up there' I'll tell ya that much.

i really should have said 'since'. there were loads of terrible years before 2000

Lowest score by the Bannies at The Bridge - 157 in June 1959 (the series they lost 5-0).

The One wrote:

furriner wrote:

The One wrote:...................this has to be the lowest moment in indian cricket after the 3-0 and 2-0 losses to aus and sa in 1999-00..............

It's tight 'up there' I'll tell ya that much.

i really should have said 'since'. there were loads of terrible years before 2000

2007 World Cup?

JKLever wrote:Blimey.

Tis all...

India have been stupidly underprepared and that's shown a hint of arrogance imo. Complete contrast to how England prepared for the Ashes.

2-0 could be series winning already. India has the talent to win 1 of the remaining 2 tests but both? Doubt it.

Significantly more chance of a whitewash than a drawn series from here. Return of Sehwag and Zaheer might change things but seemingly too many players who go missing when things start to go against them.

The One wrote:

furriner wrote:

The One wrote:...................this has to be the lowest moment in indian cricket after the 3-0 and 2-0 losses to aus and sa in 1999-00..............

It's tight 'up there' I'll tell ya that much.

i really should have said 'since'. there were loads of terrible years before 2000

Ask me...Furriner, watching the 'best' of Indian cricket since 1980.

Brass Monkey wrote:

PeterCS wrote:Can Brezzy Lad be dropped after this phenomenal performance with bat and ball?

You blatantly know they'll drop Morgan and play 5 bowlers on the strength of this tail performance (they'll forget the incredibly weak top order batting the preceeded it)

Very much doubt it - only 2 draws needed after this match for England to go top of the Test rankings. Bopara will replace Trott though he will bat at 6 with Bell staying at 3.