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Re: Tennis Players. Greedy AND soft. Just ask Andy.
it would be intolerant for gays to demand straight folks have less rights because of their sexuality
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Shame neither Casey Dellaqua nor Sam Stosur are half the tennis player Margaret Court was (or maybe is?), and so will never get a tennis court named after them....we'd see what kind of belly-aching we get from the Leviticus mob then.
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Karrie Webb should have trophies named after her when she retires. That will be a test. She is by far our most successful golfer.
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Fred Nerk wrote:Shame neither Casey Dellaqua nor Sam Stosur are half the tennis player Margaret Court was (or maybe is?), and so will never get a tennis court named after them....we'd see what kind of belly-aching we get from the Leviticus mob then.
The great irony is that is was Billy Jean King who lead the charge for the MCA to be named as she thought it would only be fair for Australia's greatest female to get one along side Rod Laver Arena.
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With all the shit named after Bradman we think of a batsman who averaged a tick under 100
We dont think of the administrator who's meanness caused the WSC split or any of the other negative shit he did
We dont think of the administrator who's meanness caused the WSC split or any of the other negative shit he did
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Aye, an other religious nutter.
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JGK wrote:Big Dog wrote:horace wrote:Big Dog wrote:We all know she is a known God botherer. Doesnt mean she should be persecuted for expressing her views, no matter how much it upsets the Latte set.
How is she being persecuted?
Threatening to rename Margaret Court Arena for a start.
Stalingrad got renamed.
at least twice, because it was something else before it was Stalingrad
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I believe the national cricket stadium in Lahore is still named the Gaddafi Stadium.
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Martina unleashes...
An open letter from Martina Navratilova to Margaret Court Arena
Dear Margaret Court Arena,
Sporting venues named for athletes, or any place, really, named for whoever, are so named for one reason. That reason is their whole body of work. In other words, it is not just for what this person did on the field, on the court, in politics, arts or science, for instance, but also for who they are as human beings.
Aussie tennis legend Margaret Court's stance against marriage equality hasn't gone down well with the new generation of talent.
When you were named after Margaret Court, it seemed like the right thing to do. After all, Rod Laver already had the big stadium and Court is one of the all-time greats. I had long ago forgiven Court for her headline-grabbing comments in 1990 when she said I was a bad role model because I was a lesbian.
What I did not know about until now were the unabashed racist statements she made in the '70s about apartheid in South Africa. Saying that South Africa dealt with the "situation" (meaning people of colour) much better than anywhere else in the world, particularly the US: what exactly did she mean by that?
Fast forward to today and Court's announcement of her boycott of Qantas because of its chief executive's support of same-sex marriage, which basically means support for the LGBT community in general. That was bad enough. Now she is doubling down with her ridiculous comments about older women luring young girls on the tour to parties to turn them into lesbians. It's a good thing she didn't name anyone as I am pretty sure she would be sued for defamation.
It is now clear exactly who Court is: an amazing tennis player, and a racist and a homophobe. Her vitriol is not just an opinion. She is actively trying to keep LGBT people from getting equal rights (note to Court: we are human beings, too). She is demonising trans kids and trans adults everywhere.
And now, linking LGBT to Nazis, communists, the devil? This is not OK. This is in fact sick and it is dangerous. Kids will suffer more because of this continuous bashing and stigmatising of our LGBT community.
How much blood will be on Margaret's hands because kids will continue to get beaten for being different? This is not OK. Too many will die by suicide because of this kind of intolerance, this kind of bashing and yes, this kind of bullying. This is not OK.
We celebrate free speech, but that doesn't mean it is free of consequences - not punishment, but consequences.
We should not be celebrating this kind of behaviour, this kind of philosophy. The platform people like Margaret Court use needs to be made smaller, not bigger.
Which is why I think it's time to change your name. And I think the Evonne Goolagong Arena has a great ring to it. Now there is a person we can all celebrate. On every level.
Yours,
Martina Navratilova
An open letter from Martina Navratilova to Margaret Court Arena
Dear Margaret Court Arena,
Sporting venues named for athletes, or any place, really, named for whoever, are so named for one reason. That reason is their whole body of work. In other words, it is not just for what this person did on the field, on the court, in politics, arts or science, for instance, but also for who they are as human beings.
Aussie tennis legend Margaret Court's stance against marriage equality hasn't gone down well with the new generation of talent.
When you were named after Margaret Court, it seemed like the right thing to do. After all, Rod Laver already had the big stadium and Court is one of the all-time greats. I had long ago forgiven Court for her headline-grabbing comments in 1990 when she said I was a bad role model because I was a lesbian.
What I did not know about until now were the unabashed racist statements she made in the '70s about apartheid in South Africa. Saying that South Africa dealt with the "situation" (meaning people of colour) much better than anywhere else in the world, particularly the US: what exactly did she mean by that?
Fast forward to today and Court's announcement of her boycott of Qantas because of its chief executive's support of same-sex marriage, which basically means support for the LGBT community in general. That was bad enough. Now she is doubling down with her ridiculous comments about older women luring young girls on the tour to parties to turn them into lesbians. It's a good thing she didn't name anyone as I am pretty sure she would be sued for defamation.
It is now clear exactly who Court is: an amazing tennis player, and a racist and a homophobe. Her vitriol is not just an opinion. She is actively trying to keep LGBT people from getting equal rights (note to Court: we are human beings, too). She is demonising trans kids and trans adults everywhere.
And now, linking LGBT to Nazis, communists, the devil? This is not OK. This is in fact sick and it is dangerous. Kids will suffer more because of this continuous bashing and stigmatising of our LGBT community.
How much blood will be on Margaret's hands because kids will continue to get beaten for being different? This is not OK. Too many will die by suicide because of this kind of intolerance, this kind of bashing and yes, this kind of bullying. This is not OK.
We celebrate free speech, but that doesn't mean it is free of consequences - not punishment, but consequences.
We should not be celebrating this kind of behaviour, this kind of philosophy. The platform people like Margaret Court use needs to be made smaller, not bigger.
Which is why I think it's time to change your name. And I think the Evonne Goolagong Arena has a great ring to it. Now there is a person we can all celebrate. On every level.
Yours,
Martina Navratilova
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Sensational comment from Martina. Word.
Yvonne is universally loved, but suspect she'd knock back the accolade. That is her way.
Yvonne is universally loved, but suspect she'd knock back the accolade. That is her way.
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Thanks Mr K for finding that.
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Aye, well said by Martina.
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It's of note I think that it's people from the 70s, some 40-50 years ago, who seem to be most relevant to and involved in this argument, an argument which probably belongs back there. Apart from Margaret Court, Martina, and Evonne; some individuals relevant to a wider discussion of tolerance and more importantly LGBetc acceptance would be Rene Richards (some may remember how suspiciously she was received by quite a number of her fellow competitors after her gender reassignment surgery) and Billy Jean King. All so long ago; but we've moved slowly, and some haven't moved at all.
Margaret is very intolerant, but she's got every right to display this as widely as she likes, in particular to all of those who did not realise it previously.
Margaret is very intolerant, but she's got every right to display this as widely as she likes, in particular to all of those who did not realise it previously.
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sure...and make a quid out of it in her hunker down down and testify tin shed
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Meanwhile Kyrgios suffered another meltdown, asking for a beer mid-match and obliterating racquets, before plummeting to second-round defeat.
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A cat never changes its softness.
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skully wrote:A cat never changes its softness.
The cat I am minding objects to that. Madam Lash is honing her already sharp claws and fangs.
Skully - you are a marked man for some nasty slashed, chewed and shredded marks.
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Hehehe. In the Mad Greek's defence I see his grandfather died prior to the game. Apparently* he was close to his Gpa.
The 1-6, 2-6 efforts in sets 3 and 4 have "fark this" written all over them.
The 1-6, 2-6 efforts in sets 3 and 4 have "fark this" written all over them.
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From Charlie Pickering this week:
The irony is, if SSM were allowed, Margaret Court could marry Tina Arena and then she really would be Margaret Court Arena.
The irony is, if SSM were allowed, Margaret Court could marry Tina Arena and then she really would be Margaret Court Arena.
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good work from Pickering's 'linesman'
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Tomic confirms what everyone else has seen for years:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/im-trapped-bernard-tomic-says-hes-only-playing-tennis-for-the-money-20170723-gxh3wa.html
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/im-trapped-bernard-tomic-says-hes-only-playing-tennis-for-the-money-20170723-gxh3wa.html
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Such sooky behaviour will hardly endear him to sponsors.
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skully wrote:Such sooky behaviour will hardly endear him to sponsors.
Can't see him ever getting a wildcard again either.
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It's like going to a rock concert and only getting two numbers because the drummer is not in the mood.
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Nice touch from Boom Boom re Peter Doohan's passing:
https://twitter.com/TheBorisBecker/status/888678186271289344
https://twitter.com/TheBorisBecker/status/888678186271289344
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