How many wickets will Saeed Ajmal get in this series?

Well, it's super mega-turner Saeed versus not very good players of spin, England. There's going to be blood. He has seven already, but there are 5 more innings for England to torture us with. He just recorded his Test best figures - you know he'll do it again before the series is out. Personally, I'd open the bowling with him and just leave him on at one end all innings. In fact, with Rehman and Hafeez, I'd probably never use a seamer against England.

57. No doubt about it. I'd clone him and bowl him from either end and make him bowl the doosra, theesra and any extra terrestrial chuck.

A number I suspect is limited only by Umar Gul's resistance to fixers and the number of English batsmen who run themselves out trying to escape to the non-striker's end when Ajmal is bowling.

Aye, he got 12 in the last series against us and we thought he was some mystery magician from a cosmic galaxy far, far away. We must think he's God's right hand man - SuperJesus - now. I predict we'll find footwork difficult as there'll be so much faeces on the pitch because we'll be frightened. No need for boxes as they'd have all ripped their bollocks off through fear by the end of the tour.

Are we going down the old "he chucks it" path?

I was before the series, but as said in the match thread - it's not the reason he took the wickets

He chucks but his 7 wickets were due to his bowling and England's ineptitude against the straight spin and yes, he's one of the best spinners around.

Where's Doctor Spin when you need him?

I think he pings his Doosra, but everything else is legal............just!

Aye, agreed. The only actual problems I've had with him is that he should've been a regular in their side long ago. Kaneria was moribund a long time before he got binned.

Basil wrote:I think he pings his Doosra, but everything else is legal............just!

Just as legal as Mulli was .... NOT.

Elbows bent and there's a distinct jerk at the top of the delivery before release as he conjurs up the revs.

BIG doubts.

Using the ICC's guideline of straightening becoming visible to the naked eye when a bowler straightens his arm past 15 degrees, I thought he pinged every type of delivery.

It's up to the ICC to stamp it out, but they refuse to. There's no point expecting or even asking cricket boards around the world to stamp it out, because there are some that won't. Alas, chucking will never be eradicated until the ICC has been replaced with people that actually have a spine.

James Kirtley should never have played for England either. Shameful pick.

It's nothing new, unforch, I mean Bhajji's largely gone under the radar because of Murali. In ways I feel sorry for Botha and Shillingford for not getting away with it.

Can't say I disagree really! I also remember a few years back Michael Holding saying something along the lines of "Yeah, Jermaine Lawson chucks, but if they are letting certains others 'bowl' then why not him".

Aye, must've been awful to be James Kirtley to get so maligned in a witch hunty sort of way, getting remedial action only to turn on the TV to see Shabbir Ahmed chuck Pak to victory. Shabbir chucked more than most.

Brass Monkey wrote:It's nothing new, unforch, I mean Bhajji's largely gone under the radar because of Murali. In ways I feel sorry for Botha and Shillingford for not getting away with it.

Botha was the one who listened and stopped pinging the doosra. Murali just carried on merrily.

Well, Botha was told not to bowl it. Murali was told that he could bowl his.

Let's all just be grateful that we've seen the last of the cheating boggle-eyed runt. What a travesty he was.

Brass Monkey wrote:Well, Botha was told not to bowl it. Murali was told that he could bowl his.

Depends you tells you.

taipan wrote:

Depends you tells you.

Couldn't agree more.

His action is a joke. Always thought so. Nothing's changed.

The fact that he was reported to the ICC in 2009 and "cleared" only confirms that their tests are an absolute sham.







15 degrees? And the rest.

tait and bung were both allowed pretty much to get away with it...much to Oz's cost as both were rubbish

Looking at pictures Dello posted, his actions looks joke, absolutely joke. How can anyone allow him to get away like this?

And worst part is that he can't even take refuge under that pisspoor excuse forwarded by Murali and Shoaib of having a deformity in his elbow.

Assuming Eng would lose this series, this would be their 2nd straight away series loss against Pak because of serial chuckers' presence in Pak team.

In '05, it was due to chucker duo of Shoaib and Shabbir and in '12 it'd be due to Ajmal.

Shameful really.

Dello wrote:His action is a joke. Always thought so. Nothing's changed.

The fact that he was reported to the ICC in 2009 and "cleared" only confirms that their tests are an absolute sham.







15 degrees? And the rest.

It can be bent ...it just has to stay bent