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Post by embee Thu 10 Jan 2013, 04:19

the number of fielders was/is by agreement/playing conditions
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Post by tricycle Thu 10 Jan 2013, 04:24

Cheers MB

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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 10:22

Johnny Briggs would have said "PAH!" to Laker's 19 wkts, given this game:

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/134/134859.html

Had an off day in the next match - only about 12 wkts:

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/134/134860.html

Back up to 22 wkts in the following game:

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/134/134861.html

It seems these were warm-up matches for an England XI v South Africa (2 Tests), rather than Jameson's Raid.



Andrew Ward says in his Cricket's Strangest Matches of a domestic match dated 14 Oct 1887 between Yatton CC (near Bristol)and '50 or more Farmers':

"It is unlikely that all the 40-plus farmers will have fielded during the Yatton innings. That would have been some field for a radio commentator to describe."

(Except of course there was no radio!)

Scorecard reproduced in next link: only 41 batsmen named for the farmers:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Bristol_and_Somerset/2000-02/0950091392


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btw: No takers for me questions?
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Post by tricycle Thu 10 Jan 2013, 10:36

Can only try a third of 12, and even that'd likely be well off
Spoiler:

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Post by tricycle Thu 10 Jan 2013, 10:43

PeterCS wrote:Johnny Briggs would have said "PAH!" to Laker's 19 wkts, given this game:

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/134/134859.html

Had an off day in the next match - only about 12 wkts:

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/134/134860.html

Back up to 22 wkts in the following game:

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/134/134861.html

It seems these were warm-up matches for an England XI v South Africa (2 Tests), rather than Jameson's Raid.



Andrew Ward says in his Cricket's Strangest Matches of a domestic match dated 14 Oct 1887 between Yatton CC (near Bristol)and '50 or more Farmers':

"It is unlikely that all the 40-plus farmers will have fielded during the Yatton innings. That would have been some field for a radio commentator to describe."

(Except of course there was no radio!)

Scorecard reproduced in next link: only 41 batsmen named for the farmers:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Bristol_and_Somerset/2000-02/0950091392


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btw: No takers for me questions?
Briggs' form was clearly tailing off. Another few matches and he'd have ended up wicketless.

And the second part is brilliant.

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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 10:47

12. No, because you've hit on the "wrong" word! If you correct that word, it becomes easier.

11 is easier if you see what sort of vernacular is being used. (Country of speaker, and his particular style.)
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:02

11 - Some knobhead - either Lillee or Thommo.
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Post by tricycle Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:07

12
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Post by tricycle Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:09

Brass Monkey wrote:11 - Some knobhead - either Lillee or Thommo.
Could also be Sunny.

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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:03

On 12:

@Trike - Right country, wrong batsman (Big Cat was not as much at home on defensive technique). Right profession of the writer.

On 11:

@Monkey: Yes, one of those. About whom? (1997, btw.)
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:05

Hint about 10:

Spoiler:


Further on 13 (for possible googling purposes):

The speaker's name was Mumtaz Yusuf
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:05

I'd say Thommo, because he's more twattish.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:07

Bingo!

And so obviously not about "India", but ......?

Mind you, in 1997, he may have had a point.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:08

Soz, haven't 'spoilt' Very Happy
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:09

For once in your life? Wink
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:10

PeterCS wrote:Bingo!

And so obviously not about "India", but ......?

Mind you, in 1997, he may have had a point.

Got to be England? Since I've watched cricket and heard ex-player's views - he stands out as the biggest twat of the lot.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:11

Indeed it has got to be the Poms.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:15

I do actually prefer Tommo to many of the thuggish type. It's not that I am a national masochist (either of those).

It's just that he has a working sense of humour and the ridiculous, unlike many a twat (and the overwhelming majority of qunts).
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:30

Just had a look at the England team of that year.

Caddick, Malcolm, and especially Gough weren't in fact so bad - when they played. But when injured (dropped?), Mike Smith, Headley Jr Jr, the Hollioakes, Ealham, Croft weren't exactly fear-inducing.

As regards the batting, Stewart, Hussain, Butcher and especially Thorpe did not resemble the caricature. Atherton was an absolute rodent against the Aussie quicks, Crawley was poor, the bowlers and "all-rounders" didn't add much to the batting.

But the most important thing is, Tommo was doing his usual Pom-baiting.

In part along the tennis player John Newcombe's lines in 1993:

"The only reason our fieldsmen were sledging your batsmen at Lord's was to try to stop you being so meek and defeatist. We were just furious at you for not making a game of it. We wouldn't sledge if you started standing up for yourselves and didn't just lie down and die all the time."

Partly true, I think - as well as an excuse for S Waugh being an absolute qunt as captain, encouraging any sort of mixture of rage and gamesmanship that would put the opposition off. (And Tubby letting the same culture continue.)
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Post by tricycle Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:38

PeterCS wrote:On 12:

@Trike - Right country, wrong batsman (Big Cat was not as much at home on defensive technique). Right profession of the writer.

On 11:

@Monkey: Yes, one of those. About whom? (1997, btw.)
Hmm, not seen much of Lloyd, tbh. Mainly only radio stuff from back then. That and the cat description in the extract.
If not Lloyd, I'll go with Garry Sobers. And if Sobers, then Arlott and not CMJ


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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:41

PeterCS wrote:I do actually prefer Tommo to many of the thuggish type. It's not that I am a national masochist (either of those).

It's just that he has a working sense of humour and the ridiculous, unlike many a twat (and the overwhelming majority of qunts).

Meh... I've got beef - I think of him and I think 'what a f*cking wanker'.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 13:49

trike:

Correct. It was Arlott on Sobers, written on his retirement in 1974.

Six feet, not five, obviously.

I think it has the resonant, rhythmically aware language of a poet: which is Arlott all over. And I believe it is a great pen picture of one of the most outstanding players in cricket history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SzfWtTZOtA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49QC1ZAFgCs
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 13:50

Brass Monkey wrote:
PeterCS wrote:I do actually prefer Tommo to many of the thuggish type. It's not that I am a national masochist (either of those).

It's just that he has a working sense of humour and the ridiculous, unlike many a twat (and the overwhelming majority of qunts).

Meh... I've got beef - I think of him and I think 'what a f*cking wanker'.

Better beef than chub.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 10 Jan 2013, 22:58

I'll "do a Skully".

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9 What was the origin (who was the originator) of the phrase "flat-track bully"?


10 In the following quotation, one word is wrong. a. Which word, and b. (in the corrected version), who said it?

I just wonder what your Prime Minister thinks about the crowd abuse. I wonder whether he's very proud of the English spectators during this series. It's a gladiator sport out there. It's like being thrown into the lions' den, and we're on a hiding to nothing. The crowd have got the thumbs-down situation - "Kill! Kill! Destroy!"


13. What did Mumtaz Yusuf, the manager of Sri Lanka A, suggest his batsmen should do if they were sworn at by the bowlers and fielders of the visiting England A team in 1991?
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Post by PeterCS Fri 11 Jan 2013, 12:34

So here are the answers.


9. John Bracewell, of Graeme Hick, in NZ 1991-92.

10. Richard Hadlee, at a media conference in Sydney 19 January 1988.

Slightly different, but expanded wording in the SMH here:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=19880120&id=RIFWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xuQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5309,4120591

He warmed to his theme ...

"Thing is, a game of rugby is over in 90 minutes. In a cricket situation you've got it for 100 overs a day. It just goes on and on and on ....

"If someone comes up to you and calls you a wanker, what are you going to do, are you going to sit there and accept it? Now that's really what we've been confronted with out there, and really we're powerless to do anything about it. ...

[He said abuse ended up doing one of two things:]

"Either it destroys you, or it motivates you.

"Now I'm very strong-willed, strong-minded when I get going. In my career I've had a lot of ups and downs, and I've survived them. And I will survive the next seven or eight days in Australia, and I'll get through, and it will make me that much more determined."

What a farqin sook, eh? groucho


13. "If you get one f*ck, give two f*cks back."

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