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Post by skully Wed 09 Jan 2008, 11:54

Batman wrote:
holcs wrote:
Batman wrote:
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bliksem wrote:Everyone who could understand him was saying how great it was so I didn't say anything, but it did strike me as odd that no-one in the audience was laughing.

Would you if a standard one-liner turned into a farking dissertation?

Amusing. 3 dimwits with no understanding of the Indian language doing a research on whether an Indian's stand up act in Hindi was funny or no. Shows who the real retards are. Nice keep it up. If making fun of my stand ups makes you feel you have achieved something great in your life, then take it for what it's worth. Pretty amusing.

Actually, i'd say fair play to you for having the gumption to stand up and try and make people laugh.

However, if you will continually post enormously long posts, which may not be necessary to say what you are trying to say, then expect a luittle bit of rib tickling.

Maybe it never occured to you that doing a stand-up comedy on Indian films and posting on forums about cricket are not the same. So when you mix the two up, it only shows how less you people understand. We all have our forum fights. happens everywhere. If tommorrow I wished you on some achievement and then we had a forum fight, does it take away your achievement that I should have a go at it? No it doesnt. So commenting on my stand up shows in such a crap way is not going to take away the prize I won or the later successful shows I earned on it's account. Just shows you guys in a very bad light and nothing more.
But our comments on your outlandishly funny routine (I'm told) seem to have unsettled you, Jerry. "shows you guys in a bad light" RAOTFLMFAO. applause
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Post by taipan Wed 09 Jan 2008, 11:56

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bliksem wrote:Everyone who could understand him was saying how great it was so I didn't say anything, but it did strike me as odd that no-one in the audience was laughing.

Would you if a standard one-liner turned into a farking dissertation?

Amusing. 3 dimwits with no understanding of the Indian language doing a research on whether an Indian's stand up act in Hindi was funny or no. Shows who the real retards are. Nice keep it up. If making fun of my stand ups makes you feel you have achieved something great in your life, then take it for what it's worth. Pretty amusing.

I have no idea if it was funny or not. All I know is that I didn't hear anyone laugh. Unless laughing at someone's jokes is culturally offensive in India, in which case you were a riot.

Suggest you look at the video again. There is sufficient applause in it. One doesn't win first prize at such contests for nothing. If you can't hear the audience screaming 'Once More' in it and can't see the applause when I get the prize, than might as well get your ears checked.

It wasn't encore you twit, it was no more.
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 11:58

please don't yell wrote:
Batman wrote:Just shows you guys in a very bad light and nothing more.

You coming in and calling our entire country Aus players racist morons, what sort of light do you think that puts back on you?


Fixed. That is exactly I said. Now you are writing without reading properly. I called the players involved in this fracas as Racists and I later also did admit that I could have stepped the line in the heat and apologised for calling them that? Now do you want to lynch me for it?
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Post by doremi Wed 09 Jan 2008, 11:58

please don't yell wrote:At no point did he say he offered an apology, yet people here and elsewhere have taken the headlines as fact.

Im sorry but when the Indians start warning you about grave consequences for taking them on it sounds like a threat a rather credible threat when you look at people burning our countries flag because we reported a player.

No, he didn't apologise, and neither did he warn anyone of grave consequences or anyting of the sort. He just said that he tried to settle the matter among themselves without making it the issue it is now.

"I did make a request that it should be handled ... if the issues can be sorted out. But it went up to the match referee and there was a case. His response was it had already been reported. Having played cricket for this long, [i knew] such an allegation would definitely spiral into what it has now. I anticipated that.

"And I envisaged that it would spiral into a larger issue. So that was the only reason. There was a hearing and now we've made an appeal. I'm sure things will be sorted out now."

And re the flag burning, we have quite a few loonies in India, doesn't mean behaviour like this isn't condemned.
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Post by bliksem Wed 09 Jan 2008, 11:58

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bliksem wrote:Everyone who could understand him was saying how great it was so I didn't say anything, but it did strike me as odd that no-one in the audience was laughing.

Would you if a standard one-liner turned into a farking dissertation?

Amusing. 3 dimwits with no understanding of the Indian language doing a research on whether an Indian's stand up act in Hindi was funny or no. Shows who the real retards are. Nice keep it up. If making fun of my stand ups makes you feel you have achieved something great in your life, then take it for what it's worth. Pretty amusing.

I have no idea if it was funny or not. All I know is that I didn't hear anyone laugh. Unless laughing at someone's jokes is culturally offensive in India, in which case you were a riot.

Suggest you look at the video again. There is sufficient applause in it. One doesn't win first prize at such contests for nothing. If you can't hear the audience screaming 'Once More' in it and can't see the applause when I get the prize, than might as well get your ears checked.

What? If I can't see something then I should get my ears checked? You've shown your knowledge of human physiology is rather lacking Vikas. May I suggest enrolling in a quick biology night class down at your local community college so that you don't end up giving your wife a nasty infection when you try to conceive your first child?

And are you sure they weren't applauding because you'd finished? I know I'd applaud if you ever shut the f*** up.
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:02

taipan wrote:
Batman wrote:
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Batman wrote:
holcs wrote:
bliksem wrote:Everyone who could understand him was saying how great it was so I didn't say anything, but it did strike me as odd that no-one in the audience was laughing.

Would you if a standard one-liner turned into a farking dissertation?

Amusing. 3 dimwits with no understanding of the Indian language doing a research on whether an Indian's stand up act in Hindi was funny or no. Shows who the real retards are. Nice keep it up. If making fun of my stand ups makes you feel you have achieved something great in your life, then take it for what it's worth. Pretty amusing.

I have no idea if it was funny or not. All I know is that I didn't hear anyone laugh. Unless laughing at someone's jokes is culturally offensive in India, in which case you were a riot.

Suggest you look at the video again. There is sufficient applause in it. One doesn't win first prize at such contests for nothing. If you can't hear the audience screaming 'Once More' in it and can't see the applause when I get the prize, than might as well get your ears checked.

It wasn't encore you twit, it was no more.

Encore? English is not the national language here that people will applaud in English vocbulary. They will not say beyond Once More in ERnglish and most of their praies will come in Indian dialect. Stop being a twit. Learn Hindi first. Watch 1,000 Bollywood films and then comment futher you twit.
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Post by skully Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:02

That's hella funny. Vikas critiquing his own Youtube clip to justify the fact that he was actually funny. wave
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Post by taipan Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:03

Batman wrote:Encore? English is not the national language here that people will applaud in English vocbulary. They will not say beyond Once More in ERnglish and most of their praies will come in Indian dialect. Stop being a twit. Learn Hindi first. Watch 1,000 Bollywood films and then comment futher you twit.

Excuse my French old chap
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Post by holcs Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:05

Batman wrote:
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Batman wrote:
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bliksem wrote:Everyone who could understand him was saying how great it was so I didn't say anything, but it did strike me as odd that no-one in the audience was laughing.

Would you if a standard one-liner turned into a farking dissertation?

Amusing. 3 dimwits with no understanding of the Indian language doing a research on whether an Indian's stand up act in Hindi was funny or no. Shows who the real retards are. Nice keep it up. If making fun of my stand ups makes you feel you have achieved something great in your life, then take it for what it's worth. Pretty amusing.

Actually, i'd say fair play to you for having the gumption to stand up and try and make people laugh.

However, if you will continually post enormously long posts, which may not be necessary to say what you are trying to say, then expect a luittle bit of rib tickling.

Maybe it never occured to you that doing a stand-up comedy on Indian films and posting on forums about cricket are not the same. So when you mix the two up, it only shows how less you people understand. We all have our forum fights. happens everywhere. If tommorrow I wished you on some achievement and then we had a forum fight, does it take away your achievement that I should have a go at it? No it doesnt. So commenting on my stand up shows in such a crap way is not going to take away the prize I won or the later successful shows I earned on it's account. Just shows you guys in a very bad light and nothing more.

And nor should it, after all this is a t'interweb forum and hardly the bee all and end all; of life itself! I hope!!!

However, one can assume that from your comments on here, that there may be some sort of connection to that of how you are in your stand ups.

Either way, fair play for having the balls to stand up and try and make people laugh, but maybe cut back on the 150 word+ replies when they are maybe not necesarry!
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Post by taipan Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:05

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people will applaud in English

Beats the French clap I guess.
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Post by skully Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:06

Is there anything sadder than a so-called-comedian demanding that he be recognised as actually being funny? Razz
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:07

bliksem wrote:
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bliksem wrote:Everyone who could understand him was saying how great it was so I didn't say anything, but it did strike me as odd that no-one in the audience was laughing.

Would you if a standard one-liner turned into a farking dissertation?

Amusing. 3 dimwits with no understanding of the Indian language doing a research on whether an Indian's stand up act in Hindi was funny or no. Shows who the real retards are. Nice keep it up. If making fun of my stand ups makes you feel you have achieved something great in your life, then take it for what it's worth. Pretty amusing.

I have no idea if it was funny or not. All I know is that I didn't hear anyone laugh. Unless laughing at someone's jokes is culturally offensive in India, in which case you were a riot.

Suggest you look at the video again. There is sufficient applause in it. One doesn't win first prize at such contests for nothing. If you can't hear the audience screaming 'Once More' in it and can't see the applause when I get the prize, than might as well get your ears checked.

What? If I can't see something then I should get my ears checked? You've shown your knowledge of human physiology is rather lacking Vikas. May I suggest enrolling in a quick biology night class down at your local community college so that you don't end up giving your wife a nasty infection when you try to conceive your first child?

And are you sure they weren't applauding because you'd finished? I know I'd applaud if you ever shut the f*** up.

Ok. So they applauded because they wanted me to shut up. If thinking that makes you feel very good, then there, happy? You won. Your 'funny' cracks have no bearing on my life. They don't change anything, whether they are my achievements or failures whichever way you see it. Winning wars on the net against people you don't know.....you got a lot of achievements to be happy about. Take the trophy and put it in the display case. And don't worry about my first child. My child is doing absolutely very fine. My child doesn't need your concerns.
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Post by bliksem Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:09

I'm sorry, can you repeat that please? I had my finger in my eye.
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Post by skully Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:09

Geez, you were so funny Vikas. No really, I can't stand the nagging from you to confirm that you were actually funny. Really, you were so funny. Encore.
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Post by taipan Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:12

hey, you realise we are supplying him with material for his "act"
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:14

skully wrote:That's hella funny. Vikas critiquing his own Youtube clip to justify the fact that he was actually funny. wave

You need to stand up on stage and see the audience reaction. Try doing it someday and maybe you will see it in different light. Even trying to stand in front of 500 people takes a lot of guts. Winning applause has it's own satisfcation. I don't know how many of you have felt that. I can only wish someone of you felt that. Some of the comments posted here have no relevance to my experiences on stage. All I can say is try it once. It's an achievement of it's own. It is possible that I have a better grip on humour in the languages I have grown up in then say a language I learnt as compulsion in school. Two different things. I don't do stand ups in English. So all i can say is you guys have no clue what you are commenting on.
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Post by JGK Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:14

Batman wrote:Indian captain Anil Kumble has revealed that he had called up
Australian captain Ricky Ponting, after the third play's day of the
Sydney Test, requesting him to not press the charge of racism against
offspinner Harbhajan Singh. Kumble told a press conference in Canberra
on Wednesday that he, as captain, offered to apologise on Harbhajan's
behalf, if there was any offence caused.

Ponting, Kumble said, declined the offer and
said he wanted to see the process through after complaining to umpires
Steve Bucknor and Mark Benson at the end of the third day's play.


The operative word here is IF. Kumble didn't say Bhajji said it did he? He didn't say he was apologizing for Bhajji having done it. He rhetorically said IF Bhajji said anything deemed offensive then he was prepared to apologise for it. If something happens in the heat of the moment and if someone is trying to defuse the tension and says 'Look I am sorry IF anything my buddy said offended you, now lets have a drink." is not the same as saying, "Look I am sorry because my buddy racially abused you." Big difference. In India this is the approach taken most of the times when colleagues or friends have a spat and when someone is trying to broker a peace. It's not the same as saying he did it. Kumble as a captain didn't hear what happened and didn't know what happened on the field. So he was trying to be fair and wanted to find out whether his player was at fault or no and talk about it which is sensible indeed. So it was a magnanimous offer that Punter should have accepted to sit across the table and see and find out IF anything out of hand had indeed happened or IF there was any misunderstanding. Lets not forget even Punter didn't hear what had happened so he should have tried to find out what indeed had happened. Kumble showed sense in not merely taking his player's word on it at that time unlike Punter who probably made up his mind that there was something worth reporting without bothering to find out the truth. He declined. Kumble offered him a chance to get together and see IF there was anything that needed an apology. For all his Integrity and Right spirits that Punter claims, he was not interested in finding out IF there was anything that could have been misunderstood or solved mutually. Steve Waugh had suggested the same in his column that there was a cultural barrier at work here and that the two Captains should talk it out first. Kumble offered Punter exactly that. The runt had made up his mind Bhajji needed to be shown down. Too bad for him. Fact is both team Captains and players needed to have a one one one with respective board officials before this was taken to ICC. Kumble did the right thing and Punter took it arrogantly.
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This will no doubt be a waste of time but...

Picture this, you are an Sikh man working in a big office. One day, while you are in the kitchen a person from another department walks in. He is a guy who you have had trouble with before and have clashed on some work related matter. The guy says, "Get out of my way towelhead ". You mention it to your boss who has a word to the man in the other department, telling him that you found his behaviour offensive and quite clearly asks him not to do it again.

A week later, you are in the kitchen again with a colleague and the man from the other department comes in again. You make small talk despite the tension but as he leaves he says "yeah, see you towelhead".

You again find this offensive and report it to your boss who is of course pissed off but in any case, under his management responsibilities and company risk management policies, is required to report the other man's second offense to a central integrity officer which he does. The man's boss hears about it and asks your boss to withdraw the complaint saying that his staff member isn't sure what he has done wrong but the boss will say sorry on his behalf.

He wouldn't be much of a boss if he withdrew the complaint (about behaviour which he had already said occurred) knowing that you were still pissed off and this was a second offense.

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Post by skully Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:16

Batman wrote:
skully wrote:That's hella funny. Vikas critiquing his own Youtube clip to justify the fact that he was actually funny. wave

You need to stand up on stage and see the audience reaction. Try doing it someday and maybe you will see it in different light. Even trying to stand in front of 500 people takes a lot of guts. Winning applause has it's own satisfcation. I don't know how many of you have felt that. I can only wish someone of you felt that. Some of the comments posted here have no relevance to my experiences on stage. All I can say is try it once. It's an achievement of it's own. It is possible that I have a better grip on humour in the languages I have grown up in then say a language I learnt as compulsion in school. Two different things. I don't do stand ups in English. So all i can say is you guys have no clue what you are commenting on.
Oh dear. Yes dear. aye-aye
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:17

bliksem wrote:I'm sorry, can you repeat that please? I had my finger in my eye.

Ok. Repost for people who insist on it again.

So they applauded because they wanted me to shut up. If thinking that makes you feel very good, then there, happy? You won. Your 'funny' cracks have no bearing on my life. They don't change anything, whether they are my achievements or failures whichever way you see it. Winning wars on the net against people you don't know.....you got a lot of achievements to be happy about. Take the trophy and put it in the display case. And don't worry about my first child. My child is doing absolutely very fine. My child doesn't need your concerns.

Now lets see you try to do a stand up in front of 500 people in a professional competition. It will be worth a laugh just watching you stand there I suppose.
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Post by taipan Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:21

Batman wrote:
skully wrote:That's hella funny. Vikas critiquing his own Youtube clip to justify the fact that he was actually funny. wave

You need to stand up on stage and see the audience reaction. Try doing it someday and maybe you will see it in different light. Even trying to stand in front of 500 people takes a lot of guts. Winning applause has it's own satisfcation. I don't know how many of you have felt that. I can only wish someone of you felt that. Some of the comments posted here have no relevance to my experiences on stage. All I can say is try it once. It's an achievement of it's own. It is possible that I have a better grip on humour in the languages I have grown up in then say a language I learnt as compulsion in school. Two different things. I don't do stand ups in English. So all i can say is you guys have no clue what you are commenting on.

Vikas, after reading your crap on various forums for 5 years, I am convinced you couldn't be funny in any language.
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Post by bliksem Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:22

Batman wrote:
bliksem wrote:I'm sorry, can you repeat that please? I had my finger in my eye.

Ok. Repost for people who insist on it again.

So they applauded because they wanted me to shut up. If thinking that makes you feel very good, then there, happy? You won. Your 'funny' cracks have no bearing on my life. They don't change anything, whether they are my achievements or failures whichever way you see it. Winning wars on the net against people you don't know.....you got a lot of achievements to be happy about. Take the trophy and put it in the display case. And don't worry about my first child. My child is doing absolutely very fine. My child doesn't need your concerns.

Now lets see you try to do a stand up in front of 500 people in a professional competition. It will be worth a laugh just watching you stand there I suppose.

Oh dear..........
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:24

JGK, there is no need to quote an example of the sikh man. Bhajji did call Symo a monkey in Mumbai and they had a discussion over it and they moved on. The question here is whether that offence was repeated again? It has not been proven yet that Bhajji did say it. The ICC hearing has not come to those conclusions in a fair manner and that everyone agrees. My post about Kumble is about the fact that Kumble attempted to sort it with Punter and Symo first hand without blindly sticking up for Bhajji and that is commendable. He tried to find out IF Bhajji had done anything offensive and IF an apology was indeed needed. Fair enough. He offered a chance to Punter to talk and arrive at a conclusion is all. I am sure everyone here is clear that Kumble has not offered an apology for accepting the charges on Bhajji. Lets see now where the Appeal goes and what revelations come further.....
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Post by Henry Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:26

What the f*ck is going on here? scratch
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Post by Batman Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:30

skully wrote:Geez, you were so funny Vikas. No really, I can't stand the nagging from you to confirm that you were actually funny. Really, you were so funny. Encore.

Lets get this one thing straight you nit. I AM NOT seeking appreciation for my video from you guys. I did not bring it into discussion. I am merely saying you guys are cuss for commenting on it and mixing it with forumming over here. I DO NOT need acknowledgement from you farks. I did not ask for it.


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Post by JGK Wed 09 Jan 2008, 12:30

Batman wrote:JGK, there is no need to quote an example of the sikh man. Bhajji did call Symo a monkey in Mumbai and they had a discussion over it and they moved on. The question here is whether that offence was repeated again? It has not been proven yet that Bhajji did say it. The ICC hearing has not come to those conclusions in a fair manner and that everyone agrees. My post about Kumble is about the fact that Kumble attempted to sort it with Punter and Symo first hand without blindly sticking up for Bhajji and that is commendable. He tried to find out IF Bhajji had done anything offensive and IF an apology was indeed needed. Fair enough. He offered a chance to Punter to talk and arrive at a conclusion is all. I am sure everyone here is clear that Kumble has not offered an apology for accepting the charges on Bhajji. Lets see now where the Appeal goes and what revelations come further.....

I agree that it is still not really clear whether it happened. However, Symonds was obviously certain that it happened so Ponting was basically obliged to see it through to the Match referee (who has the investigative role). So, even if had wanted to, Ponting withdrawing the complaint after the approach from Violet was pretty much impossible.

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