Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XV)

[embee]

or maybe they double bluffed the pinkos

[skully]

LOL @ Pinkos.

The news is reporting tonight the formation of a group of senior Labor MPs including shadow front benchers, called the Otis group (after the restaurant they meet in).

They are unhappy with Albo, his lack of listening & his pandering to the Greens. And they are most discontented about Albo's views on coal mining and the potential loss of jobs in that industry.

Albo only found out about it today after the medja told him. The irony of him lecturing about Govt disunity.

[JGK]

They meet in a lift?

[skully]

Well, that was also my original thought.

There's 20 of them so a lift may be too small.

[embee]

They meet in a lift?

i gave that a positive

really good for a dubber

[Bradman]

Obviously not movers and shakers. All the players used to frequent Happys. Though you could have some fun with padding out OTIS as an acronym.

[skully]

Welcome back, Q.

Not sure about the "Obviously not movers and shakers" quote from you. From this article in the Aus...

"Anthony Albanese will need to think hard about how he deals with a group of up to 20 Labor MPs and senators calling themselves the Otis Group — named after a restauran­t in the Canberra suburb of Kingston.

They met there on the Sunday before the first sitting week of the year, and have been exchanging emails and text messages since. The first the Labor leader knew about the group was when questions were asked about them.

The group doesn’t just comprise rogue backbenchers. It includes­ nine frontbenchers, with names such as Joel Fitzgibbon, Shayne Neumann and Don Farrell­. While the grouping is a factional inner circle of the right, its grievances aren’t to do with factional­ politics. The members want to see Labor move further to the right on policy scripts such as coalmining, climate change more broadly and how Labor best ­handles the threat of the Greens on its left flank."

[Blackadder]

The names are political lightweights, that would be best served in the Nats or one One Neuron.

[skully]

Harsh but fair.

[horace]

The names are political lightweights, that would be best served in the Nats or one One Neuron.

Aye. Fitzgibbon is a helium balloon, CIA Union trained stoolie.

[Bradman]

Welcome back, Q.

Not sure about the "Obviously not movers and shakers" quote from you. From this article in the Aus...

"Anthony Albanese will need to think hard about how he deals with a group of up to 20 Labor MPs and senators calling themselves the Otis Group — named after a restauran­t in the Canberra suburb of Kingston.

They met there on the Sunday before the first sitting week of the year, and have been exchanging emails and text messages since. The first the Labor leader knew about the group was when questions were asked about them.

The group doesn’t just comprise rogue backbenchers. It includes­ nine frontbenchers, with names such as Joel Fitzgibbon, Shayne Neumann and Don Farrell­. While the grouping is a factional inner circle of the right, its grievances aren’t to do with factional­ politics. The members want to see Labor move further to the right on policy scripts such as coalmining, climate change more broadly and how Labor best ­handles the threat of the Greens on its left flank."

Doing God's work skulls.

Thanks for the details. If they're moving away from the greens where do I sign up? If they don't have a plan apart from repeating "coal is a necessary evil and we must take action on climate change"(highly probable, they're pinkos and their only credibility comes from a belief in anthro..po..something...climate...thingy) where do I start prepping?

[skully]

Joel Fitzgibbon went within a bee's dick of losing Hunter at the last election, so he's very nervous about the Pinkos aversion to coal mining.

Let's be fair, Shortarse's arrogance, the play to take franking credits away, and Labor's perceived anti-coal stance (thanks to their greenie alliance) cost them the last Fed Election.

[Bradman]

Joel Fitzgibbon went within a bee's dick of losing Hunter at the last election, so he's very nervous about the Pinkos aversion to coal mining.

Let's be fair, Shortarse's arrogance, the play to take franking credits away, and Labor's perceived anti-coal stance (thanks to their greenie alliance) cost them the last Fed Election.

Probably a fair summation. Though the operative word is Shorten. He came within a bee's dick in '16 by saying and promising nothing. Might be a lesson there. Sad, sad, sad lesson but............

[JGK]

Meanwhile, vale Holden...

[JGK]

Oh, NTR I see...

[skully]

Meanwhile, vale Holden...

My Dad would be turning in his urn. He owned Holdens all his family years.

[beamer]

I thought they were just the equivalent of what are Vauxhalls here and Opels on the European continent, but seems they’ve gone separate ways since the GM crisis in America. You could always buy some of ours and rebadge them, we might be short of customers after Brexit...

[horace]

I thought they were just the equivalent of what are Vauxhalls here and Opels on the European continent, but seems they’ve gone separate ways since the GM crisis in America. You could always buy some of ours and rebadge them, we might be short of customers after Brexit...

lol ... I once drove an Austin Healy Sprite* owned by a mate. It was fun to drive but cost my mate a bomb to keep running. It sure put the 'lemon' into the lemonade.

I cannot see English cars would prove popular here. Japanese, Korean and European car makers are v popular.

*Sprite is Coca Cola Amatil brand of lemonade flogged here.

[Big Dog]

I thought they were just the equivalent of what are Vauxhalls here and Opels on the European continent, but seems they’ve gone separate ways since the GM crisis in America. You could always buy some of ours and rebadge them, we might be short of customers after Brexit...

It was the other way round. The Vauxhall Monaro & Vauxhall Maloo were rebadged Holdens. It looks like GM want to get out of the right hand drive market so i would'nt be suprised if some of your brands start to disappear soon.

[JGK]

Vauxhall has already been sold.

[JGK]

Meanwhile, it looks like Dustin Martin's POC father will have to be allowed back into the country after the recent High Court ruling that those with Aboriginal ancestry cannot be aliens and therefore deported - even if they aren't citizens.

[beamer]

Vauxhall has already been sold.

Yeah, GM got rid of Vauxhall/Opel some years ago, which is why they have diverged from the Australian equivalent.

There aren’t really any “British” cars any more, though plenty are made here (for now), they’re all European or Asian-owned companies. Not wishing to make this another debate over the pros and cons of Brexit, but if we get full default tariffs to and from the EU then it may be not only that car manufacturing collapses here, but that many European manufacturers might find it uneconomical to produce right hand drive models at all, so who knows what our choices will be going forwards. Obviously the shift to electric will reshape the market as well.

If Jeremy Corbyn had got in, he’d probably have revived British Leyland, and brought back brown Austin Allegros with square steering wheels and a workforce on strike daily

[JGK]

Re Brexit - what’s this I hear about British sausages being unable to be sold into the EU?

[skully]

Vauxhall has already been sold.

Yeah, GM got rid of Vauxhall/Opel some years ago, which is why they have diverged from the Australian equivalent.

There aren’t really any “British” cars any more, though plenty are made here (for now), they’re all European or Asian-owned companies. Not wishing to make this another debate over the pros and cons of Brexit, but if we get full default tariffs to and from the EU then it may be not only that car manufacturing collapses here, but that many European manufacturers might find it uneconomical to produce right hand drive models at all, so who knows what our choices will be going forwards. Obviously the shift to electric will reshape the market as well.

If Jeremy Corbyn had got in, he’d probably have revived British Leyland, and brought back brown Austin Allegros with square steering wheels and a workforce on strike daily

Left hand drive is slowly eliminating the right hand equivalent.

[JGK]

Vauxhall has already been sold.

Yeah, GM got rid of Vauxhall/Opel some years ago, which is why they have diverged from the Australian equivalent.

There aren’t really any “British” cars any more, though plenty are made here (for now), they’re all European or Asian-owned companies. Not wishing to make this another debate over the pros and cons of Brexit, but if we get full default tariffs to and from the EU then it may be not only that car manufacturing collapses here, but that many European manufacturers might find it uneconomical to produce right hand drive models at all, so who knows what our choices will be going forwards. Obviously the shift to electric will reshape the market as well.

If Jeremy Corbyn had got in, he’d probably have revived British Leyland, and brought back brown Austin Allegros with square steering wheels and a workforce on strike daily

Left hand drive is slowly eliminating the right hand equivalent.

A bit like your left handed mouse...

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