James Sutherland's legacy

Sutherland became CEO of Cricket Australia in 2001. Aus was comfortably no. 1 in the World in both Tests and ODIs at this point.

So exactly what has he achieved in the 18 years since??

Seems he kept the coffers filled but has he left the Aus game in good shape?? I would suggest "NO FARKING WAY"!!!

Shirley to God his job was to look after the welfare of Aus cricket, not just the purse strings. Sure, he's turned BBL into a cash cow, but what of the state of FC and Test Cricket for Aus??

The current Test series v India should be taken as a litmus test of Sutherland's success as the man in charge of Aus cricket. Today we appear to be farked up the arse as a Test nation.

To me it seems he walked in when we were kings of the world of the great game, and all he had to do was state exactly that to lock in rights deals left right and centre. That way he had the mnoney to pay our great players something like what they were worth and keep them happy. Happy players, happy results. All good until all of our legends retired between 2007 and 2016. Now we are left with pap.

Did Sutherland and the much vaunted High Performance Manager Pat Howard fall asleep at the wheel?? Farken oath they did!!

I suggest that the cash cow of 20/20 cricket has lead to more and more flawed techniques at the top level of Aus cricket, and worse, lead to the younger player coming through of only caring about quick runs, or, as bowlers, how to curb quick runs. The result is impatient cricket and a lack of discipline. As such, the hacks currently representing Aus cricket are no longer capable of resisting disciplined bowling for long periods to build an innings. And the bowlers can't bowl a methodical plan of attack to wear down a good batsman.

The kids of today worship T20. They want to play the reverse sweep and bowl the back of the hand slower ball. They don't want to play "that boring 4 day cricket". They want to be D'Arcy Short and Rashid Khan. They want to be superstars of the Massive Wank.

The legacy of James Sutherland was to walk in when Australia was top of the world and to walk out when we are mediocre shit.

Couldn't agree more.   You forgot to add his kowtowing to India in the Monkeygate Test and letting them dictate which grounds they wanted to play at in this series. 

An absolute fraud.

Thanks Skully. That is a trove of good thought. I think there are a number of key moments in the Sutherland era that underscore your points. Three spring to mind, but there are many more.
1 The unprecedented elevation of the gcs-poc into first class cricket and all the CA hoopla accompanying this.
2 The effective sidelining of the Shield in favour of Babel currency.
3 Appointment of cbnlg, a coach who had only enjoyed success in white ball cricket.

There are heaps of other markers we can find.

Remedies, I'd start with scheduling. I would restrict participation in the Babel to players over 25, of whom 6 in any xi must not have played first class cricket. I would withdraw permission for any Oz player to play in overseas comp.

I would restore the Shield to its traditional season and invest massively in the red ball futures comp.

Sacrificed the Test and ODIs side for the JAMITTs , and we still aren't very good at them. So gone for being Worlds best in 2 out of 3 formats, to mediocre in all formats.
On the Domestic side has sacrificed , the Sheffield Shield and Domestic One Day series , not to mention shortening the the U/19's  Nat Championships from Four Day matches to Two Day matches , therefore ensuring the future of Aus cricket is screwed with players coming through that don't have the temperate for Test match Cricket.

Blackadder wrote:Sacrificed the Test and ODIs side for the JAMITTs , and we still aren't very good at them. So gone for being Worlds best in 2 out of 3 formats, to mediocre in all formats.
On the Domestic side has sacrificed , the Sheffield Shield and Domestic One Day series , not to mention shortening the the U/19's  Nat Championships from Four Day matches to Two Day matches , therefore ensuring the future of Aus cricket is screwed with players coming through that don't have the temperate for Test match Cricket.

Good points. The Futures games must be four days. Pitches should be varied and sporting. Bonus points for tons and Michelles.

JGK wrote:Couldn't agree more.   You forgot to add his kowtowing to India in the Monkeygate Test and letting them dictate which grounds they wanted to play at in this series. 

An absolute fraud.

Excellent points.

horace wrote:Remedies, I'd start with scheduling. I would restrict participation in the Babel to players over 25, of whom 6 in any xi must not have played first class cricket. I would withdraw permission for any Oz player to play in overseas comp.

I would restore the Shield to its traditional season and invest massively in the red ball futures comp.

Nice.

Blackadder wrote:Sacrificed the Test and ODIs side for the JAMITTs , and we still aren't very good at them. So gone for being Worlds best in 2 out of 3 formats, to mediocre in all formats.

In a nutshell.

Apparently glawson has launched a massive tirade against cbnlg and others over selection and style.

Fleas on SEN fumbled his defence. The crux of the glawson quotes was Langer's lack of success as a red ball coach.

The glawson farticle is prolly in one of the Spiv rags.

horace wrote:The glawson farticle is prolly in one of the Spiv rags.

Vomit rag actually.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/coach-and-selectors-have-questions-to-answer-with-better-options-on-sideline-20190105-p50pq8.html

Blackadder wrote:

horace wrote:The glawson farticle is prolly in one of the Spiv rags.

Vomit rag actually.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/coach-and-selectors-have-questions-to-answer-with-better-options-on-sideline-20190105-p50pq8.html

Thanks. Thought he was banned from Victoria. Shows how the Age has deteriorated.

Still the glawson farticle makes valid points. The batting is going backwards under the gnome. His good old boy prerequisite, favouritism (Bane of Satan brothers) bullying (Renshaw) and lies (with Hohns to Maxwell) are the hallmarks of his tenure along with the 52 pick up batting order.

At the moment he has a 20% winning Test average ahead of this Test. It might get a boost against the Rankans ahead of a clean sweep loss v the Pomgolians.

The usual Lawson poop

a skin deep negative analysis

embee wrote:The usual Lawson poop

a skin deep negative analysis

Even a shitter can find the bowl every now and then. In this case he has flushed out the turd that is cbnlg.

embee wrote:The usual Lawson poop

a skin deep negative analysis

It must be hard. Defending cbnlg.

Not really

You assign everything negative to him

He is cleaning up a mess ...not everything is working as planned

The batting is performing as it has done for a long time (Collapsing after one or none big partnerships and hoping the tail props it up)
The bowling group is the best available ...they are slightly off their best ...lack of GCSpolishing probably

Heard Maxwell interviewed with Tim Lane during the current break. He said he dropped a note to Stutterland after the Warner/de Kock confrontration and warned him about Warner. Apparently fell on deaf ears and we know how that ended.

Which Maxwell?

embee wrote:Not really

You assign everything negative to him

He is cleaning up a mess ...not everything is working as planned

The batting is performing as it has done for a long time (Collapsing after one or none big partnerships and hoping the tail props it up)
The bowling group is the best available ...they are slightly off their best ...lack of GCSpolishing probably

Doesn't appear to be cleaning anything up. I thought Lawsons comments about selectors was pretty succinct.

It's not just Langer.   Other than Smith, is there any batsmen,  who has debuted since 2010 who has improved in the National set up?

17 years as a CEO for an organisation he didn't found is way too long.

JGK wrote:It's not just Langer.   Other than Smith, is there any batsmen,  who has debuted since 2010 who has improved in the National set up?

Warner

embee wrote:Which Maxwell?

Jim.

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

embee wrote:Not really

You assign everything negative to him

He is cleaning up a mess ...not everything is working as planned

The batting is performing as it has done for a long time (Collapsing after one or none big partnerships and hoping the tail props it up)
The bowling group is the best available ...they are slightly off their best ...lack of GCSpolishing probably

Oh well. There is sfa positive to assign him.