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Post by THICKEDGE Fri 04 Jul 2008, 11:54

Seems a strange point that Flintoff and Jones have merely to prove their fitness to get back into the England side. Harmi meanwhile is pretty much the best bowler in the county game so far this season. When he lost his mojo he deserved his dropping but he's playing well now - so what has he got to do?
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Post by PeterCS Fri 04 Jul 2008, 11:54

Are you suggesting he needs a spell in the army?
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 04 Jul 2008, 11:55

Basically, he's still bowling that mid-80's dump that's the reason he was out of the side.
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Post by Zat Fri 04 Jul 2008, 11:58

TE, refer to the forum glossary, under PHS. Possibly this trait has been noticed at high level.

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Post by Gary 111 Fri 04 Jul 2008, 12:02

THICKEDGE wrote:Seems a strange point that Flintoff and Jones have merely to prove their fitness to get back into the England side. Harmi meanwhile is pretty much the best bowler in the county game so far this season. When he lost his mojo he deserved his dropping but he's playing well now - so what has he got to do?

I think Simon Jones would dispute the best bowler in the county game stuff - he's taken about as many wickets for about half the cost.

I think the reports are that he's still littering his spells with lots of short, legside filth.

With the form of Anderson and Sidebottom, plus Broad's batting then he'd need a couple of 10 wicket hauls in the next two county games to get his name back in the reckoning.
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Post by JKLever Fri 04 Jul 2008, 12:17

Listened to a bit of the Yorks/Durham game and he was bowling a lot of filth down legside it has to be said...
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Post by Gary 111 Fri 04 Jul 2008, 12:28

In county cricket you can get away with bowling 20% snorters and 80% pies. Because basically most county batsmen aren't good enough to deal with Harmison's pace and bounce. In international cricket where it is more common (though there are still very few with the same pace and bounce) he has to get it at least 70% right, or he's gonna get mullered.
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Post by WideWally Fri 04 Jul 2008, 12:50

Interesting to see the words "Far" & "Call" in the thread title.

Did you know if you combine these words you get "Callfar"?
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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:06

Excellent thread!

Atleast bring Harmi back in the squad.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:07

Gary 111 wrote:In county cricket you can get away with bowling 20% snorters and 80% pies. Because basically most county batsmen aren't good enough to deal with Harmison's pace and bounce. In international cricket where it is more common (though there are still very few with the same pace and bounce) he has to get it at least 70% right, or he's gonna get mullered.
Have you been watching Harmi bowl in CC?
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Post by JKLever Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:08

Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph
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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:14

JKLever wrote:Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph

Noice. Glad to hear it. Don't care if he's wayward. Just care about the pace. Go mad! Get Jonah, Hoggy, Fred and GBH back, f*ck monty off and whack in Sibo. Wicked.
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Post by LeFromage Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:19

If we're reuniting the dream team, I'm sure Gilo's still good for ten overs of shite and a battling 20.
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Post by JKLever Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:20

Brass Monkey wrote:
JKLever wrote:Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph

Noice. Glad to hear it. Don't care if he's wayward. Just care about the pace. Go mad! Get Jonah, Hoggy, Fred and GBH back, f*ck monty off and whack in Sibo. Wicked.

You can see us getting twatted by the Saffer pacers and then trying to return fire with our medium dibblys (not that I think pace is everything)

If we get massacred Windian 1980's style, I can definitely see at least 3 of the 4 back...
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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:23

JKLever wrote:Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph
Nice! Any test matches at OT this year?
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Post by JKLever Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:24

Nope, you speed freak
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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:28

thats a shame
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Post by LeFromage Fri 04 Jul 2008, 20:39

PlanetPakistan wrote:
JKLever wrote:Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph
Nice! Any test matches at OT this year?

Just the one against NZ that has already been played. The wicket wasn't as quick as usual for that match either.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Fri 04 Jul 2008, 22:14

Dello wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
JKLever wrote:Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph
Nice! Any test matches at OT this year?

Just the one against NZ that has already been played. The wicket wasn't as quick as usual for that match either.
oh yeah
IIRC Monty got 6 for 32 in the 2nd innings.
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Post by Gary 111 Fri 04 Jul 2008, 23:43

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Gary 111 wrote:In county cricket you can get away with bowling 20% snorters and 80% pies. Because basically most county batsmen aren't good enough to deal with Harmison's pace and bounce. In international cricket where it is more common (though there are still very few with the same pace and bounce) he has to get it at least 70% right, or he's gonna get mullered.
Have you been watching Harmi bowl in CC?

No - but heard reports. He's still got a faulty radar. You can bowl as fast as you like, if its in the wrong place you get smashed all round the park....

http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/ENG_IN_RSA/STATS/ENG_IN_RSA_DEC2004-FEB2005_TEST_AVS.html
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Post by LeFromage Sat 05 Jul 2008, 00:37

Never recovered from that ^ tour. Went to SA as the world's number one ranked bowler, came back a shadow of his former self and, although he bowled reasonably well against Australia (without looking at his best) the following summer, fell away pretty sharpish.
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Post by ten years after Sat 05 Jul 2008, 01:31

PlanetPakistan wrote:
Dello wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:
JKLever wrote:Took 4-47 today in the SF

Bit of an in/out spell... bowled good speed though 89-92mph
Nice! Any test matches at OT this year?

Just the one against NZ that has already been played. The wicket wasn't as quick as usual for that match either.
oh yeah
IIRC Monty got 6 for 32 in the 2nd innings.

Do people actually memorise players' exact bowling figures, or does IIRC stand for If I Read Cricinfo?

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Post by Zat Sat 05 Jul 2008, 01:34

ten years after wrote:Do people actually memorise players' exact bowling figures, or does IIRC stand for If I Read Cricinfo?

Excellent!

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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 05 Jul 2008, 01:38

Aye - at least try to cover up your cribbing!

E.G.

"What was it Monty got in the second dig? 5 or 6 for 30 odd wasn't it?"

Close enough to get your point across, but vague enough to put an element of doubt into the reader's mind as to whether you've cheated!

Not that I've ever done this of course . . . ahem. naughty
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Post by PearlJ Sat 05 Jul 2008, 01:57

Well it was 6/37 so he obviously didn't read Cricinfo very well.......
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