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Post by PlanetPakistan Mon 03 Nov 2008, 14:27

M Yousuf is now going to ICL.

Good decision after his initial withdrawal.

He did come across a bit selfish here but then again there is nothing wrong in joining the ICL.
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Post by The One Mon 03 Nov 2008, 14:41

PlanetPakistan wrote:but then again there is nothing wrong in joining the ICL.

if you dont want to play international cricket again, no. you will probably earn more than any other domestic tournament

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Post by PlanetPakistan Mon 03 Nov 2008, 14:54

The One wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:but then again there is nothing wrong in joining the ICL.

if you dont want to play international cricket again, no. you will probably earn more than any other domestic tournament
icl players should be allowed to play international cricket. IPL already have players contracted for 3 years so they won't lose them
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Post by SG Wed 05 Nov 2008, 04:40

Looks like Yousuf is contemplating another change in his stand now that IPL too has threatened him of initiating legal proceedings against him since they paid him US$2,25,000 for him not being bought by any IPL team.

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Post by The One Wed 05 Nov 2008, 04:47

what a clown. maybe he can use the 'stupid village boy' defence like asif

his career seems pretty much over. after 2006 its quite a shame

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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 05 Nov 2008, 05:35

SG wrote:Looks like Yousuf is contemplating another change in his stand now that IPL too has threatened him of initiating legal proceedings against him since they paid him US$2,25,000 for him not being bought by any IPL team.
where did you get that from?

Yousuf must go to the ICL where he will hopefully be joined by some other top Pakistani players like Misbah, Younis etc
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Post by The One Wed 05 Nov 2008, 06:13

why would you want pakistani players to go to the icl? you are having a low time with your cricket team anyways, that would finish pakistani cricket

http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/A58A9AF5F731766C652574F70026AC7A?OpenDocument

yousuf does seem extremely dumb. signed up for both leagues, wont play in any

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Post by doremi Wed 05 Nov 2008, 14:19

That's even more hilarious than the Gambhir ban appeal verdict.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 05 Nov 2008, 14:26

he is already in IND about to play...
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/icl2008/content/current/story/376970.html

well i would obviously want PAK players to play in ICL rather than IPL simply because if more top players join ICL then that would force the authorities to lift the ridiculous ban and give back the right to the players to play for their state/country and still go to other leagues* to make money with out having to worry about Modi.

*= as long as the league doesn't promote things like the apartheid rule(which was the case in the 80s), the KKK or something similar.

so just to reconfirm

Absolutely fantastic news because now we might see the likes of A Razzaq, Kemp, Bond etc on the field again. Not to mention the other players who would help improve domestic cricket all over the world.
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Post by The One Wed 05 Nov 2008, 14:43

its not in any present cricket board's interests to sanction players for the icl. today its the icl, tomorrow pcl, acl, ecl, sacl, etc. much further on even tests may be organised by these 'rebel' organisations

no board is going to sign its own potential death warrant

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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:00

The One wrote:its not in any present cricket board's interests to sanction players for the icl. today its the icl, tomorrow pcl, acl, ecl, sacl, etc. much further on even tests may be organised by these 'rebel' organisations

no board is going to sign its own potential death warrant
just like tomorrow there will PPL, APL, EPL etc....
ICL are 'rebels' just because cash doesn't go in Modi's pocket.

all boards should make ICL official and let the players play in it as long as they are also there to play for national games.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:04

i am surprised that you don't see it the same way TO(as you are one of the more sensible posters)
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Post by The One Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:08

why should they make 'rebel' leagues official? it doesnt make any sense. any revenue the new leagues make could be earned by present boards instead, which can be used by them for their own use. the icl is pretty weak now, but if they are allowed to continue then they could potentially take over the job of the board itself. how is that in any board's interest?

its like coke letting its employees market products for pepsi for 3 months a year and then come back and sell coke for 9 months. you have to choose to either work with coke or pepsi, you cant have both

its exactly what happened in packer. and i think the same would happen with any league anywhere, whether primera liga or nba or f1

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Post by The One Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:14

PlanetPakistan wrote:just like tomorrow there will PPL, APL, EPL etc....
ICL are 'rebels' just because cash doesn't go in Modi's pocket.

as for this part

money from the ipl, apl, epl, ppl, etc goes to the national boards. most national boards have a policy for disbursement of such money - to players, officials, grounds, etc. we know how much money each makes and where most of it goes

all the money from icl goes to subhash chandra. no one knows how much money they have made and where it is going. it does not help other forms of the game in any way

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Post by Henry Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:15

A ''Ban" in Pakistani cricket is actually merely a basis for negotiation.

I'll eat my left nut if Yousuf doesn't play for Pakistan again.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:15

got to go to class mate....will reply in a few hours.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 05 Nov 2008, 15:16

Henry wrote:A ''Ban" in Pakistani cricket is actually merely a basis for negotiation.

I'll eat my left nut if Yousuf doesn't play for Pakistan again.
ICL players have been banned for over a year yet no one has cared about them...which loyally sucks
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Post by THICKEDGE Wed 05 Nov 2008, 17:31

Pakistan's answer to Tendulkar is banned from the former international side. At least he'll get to play cricket in the ICL.

A crying shame all round.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 06 Nov 2008, 01:43

The One wrote:why should they make 'rebel' leagues official? it doesnt make any sense. any revenue the new leagues make could be earned by present boards instead, which can be used by them for their own use. the icl is pretty weak now, but if they are allowed to continue then they could potentially take over the job of the board itself. how is that in any board's interest?

its like coke letting its employees market products for pepsi for 3 months a year and then come back and sell coke for 9 months. you have to choose to either work with coke or pepsi, you cant have both

its exactly what happened in packer. and i think the same would happen with any league anywhere, whether primera liga or nba or f1
as i have been saying for many months that they are called rebels just because they don't put cash in Modi's pocket.

here is what i posted a few months ago...lets see if you can agree with me

"If a hasbeen like Sunil Joshi is being paid thousands of dollars and is still eligible to play for his city and country then why can't a far better player like Mushtaq Ahmed be allowed to make a similar sum of money and still be eligible to play for Multan and Pakistan? If Virat Kohli and several other Indian youngsters are given a chance to make thousands of bucks then why shouldn’t players like Tim Southee, Sarfraz Ahmed and other young non Indian players be given a chance to make money?

I know it isn’t BCCI’s responsibility to give chances to the players outside IND but they should also NOT have the right to block opportunities for the players to go to different league. As things currently stand they have selected the players who they feel will benefit their league(most of the top 100 players on the planet) and YET they won't even allow the rest of the players to play to make money at ICL....now these players(mostly top domestic players) who stayed in domestic cricket are making LITERALLY 50 to 100 times less than what they could have just because of the constant bullying by the BCCI. "

They are not even letting these players play 1st class cricket by using their bullying and borderline blackmailing tactics...how messed up is that!
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 06 Nov 2008, 01:50

actually i am not that worried about BCCI any more simply because they are taking BIG bites out of the game hence every thing is quite noticeable, they along with ICC will soon get sued and badly lose the case(ICC lawyers have already predicted that)
... and i am also sure fairly soon the Indian public(sensible people like TO) will turn against the BCCI as well( the rest of the world already has).

Every thing will be resolved with in a year(or at lest i hope so)
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