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Post by Red Wed 22 Oct 2008, 02:12

According anyway to this comment piece in our papers.

India's behaviour is disgracefulArticle
Jon Pierik

October 22, 2008 12:00am
ANIL Kumble had the Indian press corp in raptures last summer when he declared: "Only one team had played the match in the right spirit."

The tourists – both players and media – were dismayed with the events of India's Sydney Test loss to Australia, remembered for the ugly spat between Andrew Symonds and Harbhajan Singh and shocking umpiring decisions.

The Indian captain's comment lit an explosive fuse that raged for months.

But yesterday the injured skipper was noticeably quiet when his team motored to a victory tainted by ugly local tactics that were by no means in the "spirit of the game".

No doubt Australia was outplayed in Mohali. Comprehensively outplayed.

But the behaviour of some of the Indian players was a disgrace. And stand-in skipper M. S. Dhoni is at the top of the pile.

How wicketkeeper Dhoni could appeal yesterday for an edge off Mitchell Johnson that clearly bounced before his gloves was bewildering.

Umpire Rudi Koertzen immediately rejected Zaheer Khan's appeal and should have had a stern talk with Dhoni.

The locals like to harp on about how Sourav Ganguly was dismissed by a controversial catch at slip by Michael Clarke in that Sydney Test.

Clarke was unsure whether he caught it, but Ricky Ponting was and, under the catching pact between the nations at the time, Ganguly had to go.

That incident is still a sore point, but what Dhoni did was inexplicable, especially for a man who covets the top job on a permanent basis.

Throughout the first two Tests, India has made a mockery of its pledge to play this series in the "right spirit".

Batsmen have refused to walk when obviously caught, there has been continual glaring at umpires when appeals have been rejected, and the verbal lip directed at the Aussies has made even the hard-nosed tourists question whether the line has been crossed.

Zaheer was hauled before match referee Chris Broad last night for the level-two offence of "conduct contrary to the spirit of the game".

Zaheer made a fool of himself when he abused Matthew Hayden after he was dismissed by Harbhajan on Monday.

Zaheer initially ran to the stumps from fine leg to celebrate with his teammates, but changed direction to run 15m to get in the face of Hayden.

Zaheer faced losing between 50 and 100 per cent of his match fee last night – the likely penalty – although he could be suspended for a Test or two one-day internationals.

The meltdown came just a day after he rang Brett Lee in his hotel room to apologise for a spray he gave the Aussie quick. Lee and Shane Watson were under intense verbal fire when batting on day three, prompting umpires Asad Rauf and Koertzen to intervene.

While Lee laughed off the banter, Zaheer was worried he had crossed the line and rang him to make sure there was no lingering animosity.

Australia hasn't been entirely innocent, but, at the moment, it appears only one team has been playing in the right spirit.
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Post by embee Wed 22 Oct 2008, 02:18

I'd rather win than play in the "right spirit" and get beaten by over 300 runs
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Post by Red Wed 22 Oct 2008, 02:20

embee wrote:I'd rather win than play in the "right spirit" and get beaten by over 300 runs

A lot of our fans feel we've lost the fire since Sydney by trying to be "too nice".
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Post by JGK Wed 22 Oct 2008, 02:53

embee wrote:I'd rather win than play in the "right spirit" and get beaten by over 300 runs


SAge. But Indian hypocisy being exposed is the only thing keeping me interested in the game at the moment.

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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:07

Aussies have no right to complain about "bad behavior"- absolutely NIL.
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Post by G.Wood Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:10

No surprise to see the asian bloc sticking together
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Post by furriner Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:14

If I may add, re Dhoni's behaviour:

Linky

From the article:

Dhoni was also asked to explain his appeal for a catch against Mitchell Johnson, one that he had taken on the bounce. Dhoni had appealed but straightaway asked the umpire to call the third umpire because he was not sure......... "I was not sure about the catch so I immediately got up and asked the umpire [gestures as if referring a decision to the third umpire], and Rudi [Koertzen] said that he [Johnson] never nicked it. So there was no point," Dhoni said.

FWIW. That's all I gotta say on the subject.

They're all qunts anyways, reporter Jon Pierik on down, inclusive of many players on both sides.
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Post by Josh Carney Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:18

Looks like several Aussie fans and journos are taking a "defeatist" mentality. They want to moan and groan about things they normally wouldn't batter an eye lid about in winning times.

As far as appealing for catches / non catches this time around the Indians rejected the Aussie proposal to take the player's word after what happened in the past. So player can appeals and leaves it to the umpire to decide.

Another factor I would throw in for a potential decline in the "fire of the Aussies" is their vested interest in IPL/ICL etc.


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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:20

It is the brown man's burden :-

to host ungracious fools of all kinds ..
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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:24

G.Wood wrote:No surprise to see the asian bloc sticking together
howzthat the case here?
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Post by skully Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:31

The article seems a bit of a beat up to me.

But Zak does appear to get the red mist going when he crosses the boundary line. I have no dramas with this, but I do find it humorous that he was the man that spat the dummy about the jelly beans on the pitch v England.

And I agree we have become soft since the Sydney controversy.
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Post by Josh Carney Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:37

Perhaps Bhaji can fix Zak the way he fixed Sreesanth !

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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:43

U guys need to use less Us. Typing behavior instead of behaviour would save bags of time.
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Post by G.Wood Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:48

Did captain drunky get sanctioned for the way he carried on when Sehwag wasn't given out when he appeared to get an edge?
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Post by horace Wed 22 Oct 2008, 03:51

I do not think their behaviour was over the top...tho I find it irksome to see some Indian batsman stand at the crease waiting for a decision on the most obvious of catches...zaheer copped his fine and at least rang bung to make sure no offence was taken...argee bharji continued to behave like a twerp..but no-one expects any the less of him.
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Post by embee Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:03

PlanetPakistan wrote:U guys need to use less Us. Typing behavior instead of behaviour would save bags of time.
get fcked yo sbi cnt....yor right PP , that does save time
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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:08

Josh Carney wrote:Perhaps Bhaji can fix Zak the way he fixed Sreesanth !

bullies always select soft targets ..

refer to the anglo-saxon conquests
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Post by SG Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:14

G.Wood wrote:Did captain drunky get sanctioned for the way he carried on when Sehwag wasn't given out when he appeared to get an edge?
Writer apparently forgot to mention that.

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Post by G.Wood Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:24

He also failed to mention that Zak only did to Hayden what every Australian fan also wanted to do when he got out in the manner he did.

The writer showed what c0ck he is when he tried to bring Kumble into it even though he wasn't playing
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Post by Josh Carney Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:25

*Buckaroo* wrote:
Josh Carney wrote:Perhaps Bhaji can fix Zak the way he fixed Sreesanth !

bullies always select soft targets ..

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Surely you are not defending Sreesanth. He is one of the prickliest characters I have come across in Indian Cricket. Somebody needed to put him in place.

As far as the bully thing goes it was the other way Sreesanth was carrying on like a pork chop to one and all. When somebody gave it back he burst into a sobbing wreck the way all bullies crumble.

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Post by SG Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:28

Regarding Hayden's dismissal in the 2nd innings, he has scored bucketful of runs from that stroke in his career, especially against Bhajji.

So I don't think that stroke was that dreadful though considering it was last over before tea, perhaps he could've reined himself in a bit. But thats Hayden for you, much like Sehwag, very impetuous at times.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:29

Josh Carney wrote:
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Josh Carney wrote:Perhaps Bhaji can fix Zak the way he fixed Sreesanth !

bullies always select soft targets ..

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Surely you are not defending Sreesanth. He is one of the prickliest characters I have come across in Indian Cricket. Somebody needed to put him in place.

As far as the bully thing goes it was the other way Sreesanth was carrying on like a pork chop to one and all. When somebody gave it back he burst into a sobbing wreck the way all bullies crumble.

Sreesanth might well have been a prick. But 'putting him in place' was not harbhajan's job.

you have to understand that every Indian cricketer represents a certain state and a certain ethos .. you mess around with that there is a lot more that will take offence than just Sreesanth himself.
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Post by furriner Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:33

Josh Carney wrote:
*Buckaroo* wrote:
Josh Carney wrote:Perhaps Bhaji can fix Zak the way he fixed Sreesanth !

bullies always select soft targets ..

refer to the anglo-saxon conquests
Surely you are not defending Sreesanth. He is one of the prickliest characters I have come across in Indian Cricket. Somebody needed to put him in place.

As far as the bully thing goes it was the other way Sreesanth was carrying on like a pork chop to one and all. When somebody gave it back he burst into a sobbing wreck the way all bullies crumble.

Except that Bhajji was also a pork chop. Sree's blubbering and Bhajji's subsequent misery was as fine sight I am yet to see in cricket, and it had a happy ending for everyone except the two.
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Post by horace Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:36

agreed furri
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Post by Josh Carney Wed 22 Oct 2008, 04:39

Yep Bhaji is no angel either.

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