Next England Coach then.......

Anyone that has nothing to do with the Ashes 05 side, and who has half a set of bollox on them.

Ideally foreign too.

holcs wrote:Anyone that has nothing to do with the Ashes 05 side, and who has half a set of bollox on them.

Ideally foreign too.

Willie Carson?

Merlin wrote:

holcs wrote:Anyone that has nothing to do with the Ashes 05 side, and who has half a set of bollox on them.

Ideally foreign too.

Willie Carson?

Hitler would qualify

Or any supermodel, seen in profile.

All the above better than Moores or Piles.

And having been out of practice, I had forgotten how much a bunch of gits you lot are!

Is Moores the guy who keeps saying something about 40s?

ENG should probably hire Fletcher or Whatmore.

holcs wrote:All the above better than Moores or Piles.

And having been out of practice, I had forgotten how much a bunch of gits you lot are!

Says he with his Jon Maunders taunting avatar...

JKLever wrote:

holcs wrote:All the above better than Moores or Piles.

And having been out of practice, I had forgotten how much a bunch of gits you lot are!

Says he with his Jon Maunders taunting avatar...

I certainly can't change that until he has proved you wrong!

Maybe England should get over the habit of dropping the coach every time a few bad results come in.

OP Tipping wrote:Maybe England should get over the habit of dropping the coach every time a few bad results come in.

It's hardly a few bad results is it though?

Lost the last 4 series against the big 3 playing pretty uninventive cricket.

See if SKW is available.

Greg Chappell and Geoff Lawson are available ....

Now SKW ...

Henry and Underarm Mastermind you can respectfully stick up yer jacksy, embee

Snigger


Graham Gooch claims Shane Warne is to blame for the rift between England captain and coach

January 07, 2009 07:21am


SHANE Warne has been blamed for the public feud between England captain Kevin Pietersen and coach Peter Moores.

Former England captain Graham Gooch has suggested that time Pietersen spent playing with Warne may have influenced his thinking towards the coach's training methods.

The Pietersen-Moores spat is threatening to derail England's Ashes campaign six months out from Australia's arrival on tour.

It seems disagreement over training methods and a personality or ego clash are at the heart of the problem between the pair.

The omission of former England captain Michael Vaughan for the upcoming tour of the West Indies was initially thought to have angered skipper Pietersen. But it now appears that was just the last straw.

Moores' focus on statistical analysis is seen as too much of a contrast to the impulsive Pietersen, who criticised the coach's "all day, every day" training regime employed before England's tour of New Zealand a year ago.

The issue has amazing similarities to the rift between Warne and John Buchanan, when he was coach of Australia.

Warne launched a stinging attack against Buchanan's army-style bush training camp in the lead-up to the 2006-07 series in Australia.

And, in further criticism of Buchanan's unorthodox training methods, the now-retired Warne suggested top cricketers don't need coaching.

"I believe you need a manager rather than a coach," said Warne.

"As an international cricketer, you know you're good enough and you don't need a coach getting too technical."

After one of Warne's outbursts against Buchanan, former Australia vice-captain Adam Gilchrist said: "Everyone knows Warnie and John have never seen eye to eye so I don't think we've found out anything new there."

Warne and Pietersen were teammates at county team Hampshire and are also great friends and Gooch believes Warne may have had a negative effect on the South African-born batsman.

"Unfortunately I think he has been influenced a little bit by Shane Warne at Hampshire," Gooch told BBC Radio's 5 Live.

"Warne was a great motivator as a player but, as one of the all-time icons of the game, and after leading the Rajasthan Royals to the Indian Premier League title last year, he doesn't really believe in coaching."

While Moores has refused to comment, Pietersen told the Sunday tabloid News of the World: "This situation is not healthy, we have to make sure it is settled as soon as possible and certainly before we fly off to the West Indies.

"Everybody has to have the same aims and pull in the same direction for the good of the England team."

The very public Pietersen-Moores rift could not have come to a head at a worse time for England.

The Ashes start six months from Thursday and, with Australia struggling at home against South Africa, many had been talking up England's chances of repeating their 2005 triumph later this year.

Thursday also marks Pietersen's return from holiday in Africa, and England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) chiefs are expected to have a solution to the problem by the weekend.

Pietersen has reportedly threatened to quit the captaincy if he is not satisfied and he is widely tipped to win the power struggle that appears to have the ECB facing a choice between the two men.

Sacking Moores would leave limited time to replace him and his backroom supporters before the squad flies to the Caribbean on January 21, not to mention put an Ashes-winning structure in place.

A Pietersen victory would also set what many see as an unsavoury precedent, however, where the captain selects the coach.

Cricket analyst Simon Hughes wrote in Britain's Daily Telegraph: "In cricket, the coach's position is more delicate than in any other sport ... he has little control over the team once play starts, yet will usually get the blame if things go awry."

Should the ECB call Pietersen's bluff - if indeed it is a bluff - and stick with Moores, irreparable damage has been done.

The most likely replacement as captain is Andrew Strauss, who has rediscovered his Test form, but has not played a one-day international for more than 18 months.

Whatever happens, the very best - albeit unlikely - outcome the English can hope for is that the script follows that the Warne-Buchanan boot-camp stoush and ends in a 5-0 Ashes whitewash for the hosts.

- AAP

Onya Warney...

JKLever wrote:I'll put forward a name - Dave Houghton - always liked his ideas on cricket and he comes accross as being pretty savvy on TV - could do worse IMO.

Name dropping here, but spent a very pleasant time at a 92WC function with Dave Houghton. He told some great stories about playing cricket against Argentina - little blokes about 4'11" turning the ball behind square and calling 'Si...'

His accent would nicely complement KPs as well.

Gooch?

Demelza wrote:Gooch?

No.

Why not?

He's too old school, and it's long been known with Gooch that it's either his way or the highway.

As happened in the football, we tried an English coach and he wasn't up to it, so we have to look abroad again. Find someone whose methods weren't developed in the English county game who can bring something new to the setup.

I wonder how much say Strauss will have?

He might demand Emburey gets the gig or he'll quit.

He'll also demand that Gordon Brown steps down as PM to make way for David Cameron, and that every man in England should wear a polo shirt with the collar turned up, and have a big loud "HA HA HA YAA HA HA YAA" laugh .

All hail our new fuhrer

Should imagine Strauss will be a pretty level-headed, phlegmatic captain who doesn't look to rock the boat.

Got saddled with a bowling attack of Hoggard, Plunkett, Mahmood and Panesar - not to mention the return of Chris Read behind the stumps - and he just got on with the task of trying to win the Test series (against Pakistan, which he did). No dramas. No tantrums. Just business.

He's a good egg.